i'm joined now by maria snegovaya, seniorfellow with the europe, russia, and eurasia program at the center and international studies. thank you, maria, for talking to me about this. what are your first thoughts when you have the comments from president trump, orfrom the the comments from president trump, or from the white the comments from president trump, orfrom the white house, saying that the chances of ukraine joining saying that the chances of ukrainejoining nato are ukraine joining nato are unrealistic?— ukraine joining nato are unrealistic? . ., ., unrealistic? yeah, thanks for havinu unrealistic? yeah, thanks for having me- _ unrealistic? yeah, thanks for having me. certainly, - unrealistic? yeah, thanks for having me. certainly, like . unrealistic? yeah, thanks for having me. certainly, like so| having me. certainly, like so many analysts today, i'm a little bit surprised to discover the us administration to deliver so many concessions to deliver so many concessions to putin pre—emptively, before the talks have even started, and putin seems to be already getting so much of what he