and i'm going to sit in on this first panel, but i'll introduce first mariam nisbet. hopefully, more and more people out in the viewing audience as the -- i can't say new director, you're the founding director, it's been in existence since 2009. it only feels like ten years or four weeks, depending on the department of the office of government services, ogis for short. she came back from paris to her husband's dismay to accept that career position of ogis. >> he was with me. >> oh, i'm not implying a breakup. as a matter of fact, i saw him back there in washington. but michael made it clear to me had you turned that job down and allowed him to stay as a kept man in paris, france, for the near future that would have been fine with him. fair, fair characterization? anything beyond that is exception 6 information and if i go a half step further, it will be 7-c because miriam will come after me and this will be a law enforcement investigation involved. mariam has probably more varied experience in the openness in government related area, than just about anyone else. becau