i couldn't figure out how to have my own angle sofirst i thought i'd write about marian avis i've writtenabout franklin and eleanor. so many books about him. many books about her, so their partnership during world war ii became the theme. as they started sending the first couple years i realize she couldn't serve the public side of the story the way all of our day. somehow locally and went to the secretary of state early in the research that's a wonderful museum and i began to get interested in him and i read his letters and his wife was away from washington for a year or so he her letter after letter after letter and then i got interested in the other guys in the cabinet. jason stanton and while the male cat diaries and they all wrote letters. so it's probably three or four years into it i realized this is the story i can tell. his relationship with all of these guys because they talk about him in a way that not everybody has and they tell me everyday what they thought about him and what they felt about each other and team of rivals finally became the subject of the book. >> to president