he wanted to see so he and another senator went with marian wright and peter edelman, marian wright went and she came and took time in washington and it was, he had never seen poverty like that, as bad as it was. and he went back and immediately pushed to get more federal aid but it had a huge impact on him and it horrified him. it just kept them going but he wanted the country to see and they had hearings and brought people to washington to try and put a spotlight on this. and to really push or the federal government to expand into the poverty programs. around the country. it's a great question number. >> here's another one. this question asks about a 1968 late-night meeting in west oakland. okay, 1968, west oakland book ended the baldwin one. the baldwin meeting, i guess the one we discussed before. discuss how rfk's approach had changed and why you went and why he tried to translate the session into action. i guess the questioner also wants to ask didn't the open meeting also garnered the get out the votesupport for the black community for the primary >> it certainly helped . that's t