one of whom is sending very familiar to, marian wright edelman who was at the time a student at spelmanand was involved in the writing of this ad. and the other was rosalyn popa was at the time the student government association at spelman. and both are back on campus a few months ago. and we were having a chat about their experiences in the 60's and what they talked about was that the real motivation to get involved in the civil rights movement was stunned by their experience students abroad. but it was in fact their travel abroad to make clear to them that they did not need to put up with what they had experienced in the united states. they were asked of you brought students have spent time in france in paris and they talked about how liberating it was for them as young people to be able to come and go as they wanted to, to be able to shop wherever they wanted to or travel without the burdens of desegregation but they were experiencing in the south, from where they had grown up in where they were going to school. and so, he really gave me new insight into the importance of helping our