marian wright edelman. these persons have had great impact on my life. >> what did you learn from dr. king, in particular, because your legacy is so intricately tied to dr. king's. you were literally standing on the balcony. >> i was on the ground. we were talking to each other. >> to be that close to him not just at that moment but over the course of those years u what were the big lessons you learned from dr. king? >> oh, boy. one i think is intellectual preparation. he was a serious scholar. you think of him, he did a debate on the negro and the constitution at age 14. >> wow. >> age 15 he went to moorehouse. he finished at 19. he was a furious scholar. he read at least one fiction an nonfiction book a week. i mean, he was as scholarly as he was activist. and so i'm not bad as a scholar, but i certainly appreciate the need to keep researching the great history of our time. i think i got something from him. >> i think you got a whole lot of that. in 1984 and in 1988, you ran for president of the united st