joining us to help keep drivers safe on wisconsin roadways are mariann muzzi and wayne wiese from aarp. thanks for being here you guys. >> good morning. >> great to see you. >> glad to be here. >> i think it's a tough conversation to have because nobody wants to give up driving or think about themselves becoming not a good driver or the fact they maybe are not decisions. why do you think it is important to have a driver refresher course? >> for just that reason. how many of us first took a driver safety course or driver instruction course when we were 16. we have changed and the roads have changed. the rules of the road have changed. the driver refresher course gets us tuned up to stay safe on the road for as long as possible. >> what is the deal with, maybe some is obvious, but as we why does driving become nor more dangerous? >> we change physically. our ability to turn our heads, to be comfortable, to see in different lighting, all of that just changes. sometimes medications happen, and so we need to be cognisant of those things and beware of our ability to stay safe and tuned up an