my name is jim, i'm here on behalf of the permit holders david and marianne asher. i won't go into the eight-year history between these neighbors, neither of whom actually reside at the properties but i'll give you the three reasons why the appeal has to be denied. first of all, the parties have been here and done this. if we were in a court of law the appeal would be thrown out under collateral estoppel because this was done earlier. this board heard it and unanimously denied the appeal and lifted the suspension of the permit. so nothing has changed with the building cold or with d.b.i. this is still a law that is not going to exceed four feet. so nothing has changed. we unanimously won five years ago. nothing has changed of my same decision should happen. what we've heard, though is some concerns about this wall that are really unfounded. spite wall, no. this is actually the best thing in these days and times where everyone is concerned about the climate when you're actually reusing materials and not taking them to the dump and adding to the landfill. so my client