marianne marsh. good evening marianne. >> good evening, judge.uite an open. >> i'm not even going to ask you if i'm wrong. i know you think i am. >> misguided. >> misguided. okay. >> misguided. >> you know i don't know. i've got a pretty good record. but let's talk about what is now coming out. i think you know, marianne as i do that the foundation is now coming under more serious review. and when the director of the fbi takes her comments about a security inquiry and says huh-uh this is law enforcement investigation, we do criminal probes that's a little embarrassing isn't it? >> well judge, given your background buff took on this job at fox, you dealt in facts. and let's deal with the facts. and the facts first on the foundation are pretty clear. the clinton foundation helping homes become more energy efficient is in keeping with their goals. they hired a legitimate vendor to do it. and the money was donated by one of the people referenced in that article. no money was given the other way. donated. >> are you talking about the energizer woman?

marianne marsh is former senior adviser to john kerry.to get your fresh reaction after hearing that sound from donald trump. >> there is no question donald trump and hillary clinton know the white house will be won by women voters. you can see their strategy laid out in front of you. donald trump is attacking hillary clinton to suppress the turn out amongst women. hillary clintonn is in virginia trying woo independent and republican women to support her. martha: matt, what do you think? >> the rules republicans have followed the last 20 years talking about bill clinton and his scandals turned out to be a political losers and donald trump is going to take on all these rules and test the hypothesis to see if he can come out with something bert. maybe it wasn't about the sex, maybe it was the clintons have a second set of rules and they may by their own set of rules. martha: the thing hillary will go after donald trump about are the statement. the words he has used, the things he has called women. it was brought up to him at our first debate

. >>> with me now is principal at the dewey square democrat strategist mary ann marsh. marianne, hello, is elizabeth warren auditioning? and why would hillary clinton pick her? >> i didn't underestimate donald trump. and you shouldn't underestimate elizabeth warren. the most dangerous nern politics is the person who has nothing to lose. elizabeth warren has nothing loose. the fact she is taking on donald trump not only elevates her among her supporters across the country, a lot of the people who first voted for scott brown, then voted for elizabeth warren, put her in the senate those are the same people that voted for the donald trump in the primary. she appeals to the blue collar workers, rank and file. those are the same people who voted for donald trump that like elizabeth warren and voted for her, too. she has a great way to reach them. >> this is a national convention. the fact that people in massachusetts like her -- i know massachusetts is an important state. but at the same time i was looking up elizabeth warren's record. and you know, apparently none of the legislation

martha: mat schlapp and mary anne marsh, welcome to both of you. marianne, when you read this piece, were you shocked by it, did it surprise you, did you think there was a lot of meat in that story? >> shocked? no. the real point is what reince priebus said. that donald trump's personal life should be off limit. if that's the case, so should hillary clinton's. what you saw culminating in the "new york times" story yesterday, donald trump has been hitting -- hillary clinton about her personal life and her marriage. your opponent hits you, and you hit back in kind. what we are seeing now is whether there is a double standard. i think that's what we are looking for in the next several days. martha: the "new york times" should feel they have a responsibility to do that equally exhaustive research into the clinton side as well. a lot of readers and reporters are expecting that's the way they will respond. especially if it's been called into question. she was the leased this story. usually you put the teeth of the story up front, matt. what do you think about thi