i think about you know, marianne moore and a poet who says that poems are imaginary gardens with real -- in them. there are some human realities and all of those imaginary gardens. >> you know so much in our society is about, and i kept thinking about this in your book. so much of it is saying one -- we put religion over here and music over here. religion over here, science over here. they don't meet for many people. but clearly they do for you. >> yes, they did. and i realized too grown up in a family of scientists and then having married one, who is unusual. that idea that they are antithetical to each other so out of date. you know, real 19th-century stuff. because they address completely different questions. for example, maybe you should name names but you know someone -- >> go ahead. >> steven weinberg at the university of texas is famous, he won a nobel prize in physics. when my husbands colleagues. says the more we know about the universe to, the more we know i useless. i mean visits doesn't say that. einstein says the more we know about that the more we know about intelligent

i think about you know, marianne moore and a poet who says that poems are imaginary gardens with real- in them. there are some human realities and all of those imaginary gardens. >> you know so much in our society is about, and i kept thinking about this in your book. so much of it is saying one -- we put religion over here and music over here. religion over here, science over here. they don't meet for many people. but clearly they do for you. >> yes, they did. and i realized too grown up in a family of scientists and then having married one, who is unusual. that idea that they are antithetical to each other so out of date. you know, real 19th-century stuff. because they address completely different questions. for example, maybe you should name names but you know someone -- >> go ahead. >> steven weinberg at the university of texas is famous, he won a nobel prize in physics. when my husbands colleagues. says the more we know about the universe to, the more we know i useless. i mean visits doesn't say that. einstein says the more we know about that the more we know about intelligent en