that marianne williamson's which we call this was just about fourteen years ago yes years ago there abouts to she had barbara marx over kicking off this department of peace thing i'm not sure that our voice that was exactly right that's right and you know we said we talked briefly but we were both speakers so it was more like kind of ships in the night but we both knew their very end quite well and i'm wondering . your thoughts on how that concept of a department of peace ties in with your spirituality and you or your life experience that that's because because all the politicians are gone oh oh come on the sinner cartmell that will that peace is inevitable war is not inevitable we're conditioned to believe that war is inevitable but peace is not simply the absence of war it's a capacity that we have to be able to relate to each other to be able to see one another person as an aspect of oneself and when we and to be able to tap the potential that each one of us has to evolve that's what barbara robert and mary and william talk women talk about so it's about being the best we can be and to