[laughter] it's like marie antoinette. yeah, like you're gonna do better with kathy griffin.bleep] you! it is just... when she lasts 45 years, then go stand on my grave. just kidding! i love kathy. melissa: where's billy these days? joan: i have no idea. he's no longer really part of my career. he, he can't be. i spend too much energy looking for billy and too many phone calls coming in from people that haven't heard from billy, and, uh, can't deal with it. you know it's bad when people say something to me. i run into people and they're like, "oh, we were trying to reach billy and he never called us back." yeah, but let us know. yeah, just say, "call jocelyn." yeah. joan: billy, unfortunately, is no longer part of my team. i sent him an e-mail saying we're no longer in business together. he just can't be counted on and, uh, it's killing me. i'll tell you why it really upset me... [tearfully] billy is one of the last links that i can say, "do you remember?" and i had to cut that off. and i think that's -- it's not the business. that's where i... i cannot tell you, i will never

the sad lion is a memorial to over 700 swiss mercenaries who were killed, defending marie antoinette and louis xvi during the french revolution. the people of luzern take full advantage of their delightful river with a variety of cafes and restaurants along its banks. this evening, we're enjoying the setting as much as the food. i'm having the local pork. my producer, simon, is having eel, fresh from the river. with a picturesque setting like this, the dining experience makes for a wonderful memory. >>> hello there and welcome to "newsline." it's a tuesday, september 16th i'm catherine kobayashi in tokyo. japanese officials are trying to get international support for whaling in thear

. >> this is my apartment, very grand, this is how marie antoinette would have lived if she had money making no apologies on her upper east side penthouse, worth more than $30 million. >> i enjoy my creature comforts, i know i have to work for it. >> but joan didn't always live a life of financial freedom. >> i don't know anything about business, i am worst in the world with it. and i don't care. >> when her husband committed suicide she was left with her the 15-year-old daughter to pick up the pieces of a broken career and poor business decisions. >> now what are we going to do? i have then show, made bad business investments. everything was stopped. stopped. and here i am. >>noeventually, she turned her life around in a most triumphat her brains and beauty. >> i was never the pretty one, the

he just -- i would imagine that would have been the first marie antoinette if he hasn't viking ething with the rates and literally decided fleet.ave their own he's the founder of the british navy. yep? any other -- yes, sir. yes, i read your biography of ohn barry and was first catholic to serve in a high position. was he ever discriminated against for -- he never gives any notification of it, you know? spread out.re there's a collection that's in the new york historical society. independent sea port museum with the family papers and and documents of the library of congress and the ational archives but never mentions at all anything about being discriminated against. classic case the of ability sur mounding any prejudices. he was ery lucky when sent to the colonies that he came to philadelphia because much more anti-catholic fervor in the new england colonies than there was philadelphia was thought of as wide open minded. there was a philadelphia fish when 100he early 1700s irish immigrants showed up at the docks, he looks as if going to send inhabitants hither. so i don't think it qu

i just imagine he would have been the first marie antoinette if he had not done something with the viking raids. he literally decided, "well, we'll have our own fleet." he's the founder of the british navy. on johnd your biography barry. he was the first catholic to serve in a high position. was he ever discriminated against? >> he never was given any notification of it. there's letters and documents at the library of congress and the national archives, but he really never mentions anything at all about being discriminated against. case ofit was a classic ability surmounting any prejudices. he was lucky when he was sent to the colonies that he came to philadelphia because there was much more anti-catholic fervor in the new england colonies then there was, and philadelphia was pretty much thought of as wide .pen minded when 100 irish immigrants show up at the docks, it looks as if ireland is going to send all its inhabitants hitter. i don't think it quite turned out that way. >> i would like people to know that the sons of the revolution annually gives an award at the u.s. merchant marine

she lived in this apartment, which was very kind of grand and used to say it was like what marie antoinetteived in and though she was so uncensored and shocking on stage, she really was this other person. >> you actually, which i hadn't realized but i saw on your instagram, you shot a pilot with her in 2006. you and her together. >> yeah, it was called straight talk and it was a pilot for bravo and the concept was joan and three or four gay guys. it was like a "view" kind of thing and it didn't get picked up, but for me, i grew up in st. louis watching joan subing for carson and i was -- she was one of my first kind of divas that i associated with and loved and so for me to sit down next to her on a show that i was one of the hosts of, it was so sufwas surre was so kind. >> as a kid, i didn't like her because she made fun of my mom and as a little kid, i found it upsetting to see her making fun of my mom, but as an adult, once i got to know her, i came to really like her and appreciate her and i do think that there was something about her, which you talk about this pilot with gay people, sh

. >> she used to say it was like what marie antoinette would live if she had taste i think was one ofes. >> and though she was so uncensored and shocking on stage, she really was this other person. >> you actually, which i hadn't realized, but i saw on your instagram today, you shot a pilot with her in 2006. you and her together. >> yeah. it was called "straight talk." and it was a pilot for bravo. and the concept was joan and three or four gay guys. it was like a "view" kind of thing. it didn't get pucked up. i grew up in st. louis watching joan subbing for carson. she was one of my first kind of divas that i associated with. and loved. and so for me to sit down next to her on a show that i was one of the hosts of, it was so surreal. and she was so kind. >> honestly, as a kid, i didn't like her because she actually made fun of my mom in some jokes when my mom was doing the jeans and stuff. as a little kid, i found it upsetting to see her making fun of my mom. but as an adult, once i actually got to know her, i came to really like her and appreciate her and i do think there was someth

she said this is how marie antoinette would have lived if she was a comic. and in fa very, very close with the royals and she actually took me four years ago to windsor castle and buckingham palace and we had two amazing nights with charles and camilla, her buds and would go painting with prince charles in balmoral and he adores her. i was very impressed by that. because people maybe would say joan's humor wasn't classy. well she's in buckingham palace right now. >> in pretty good company. >> she's in good company. also, she would -- charles said something wonderful to me when she was introducing us and he pulled me in and he said, withoute comedians and newspapes who would keep us honest. the gets it column. >> you'll be sharing for memories. nank you for flying in for this. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> the nfl season is starting. natalie has more on that. >> this morning we're kicking it off with a special season-long series called together we make football. nbc sports' josh elliott made his way to mile high in denver to get things started for us. jo