of marie antoinette. host: that means return to you, beckett. why marie antoinette? guest: i think in my vague idea i wanted to start with someone who had name recognition. it was not any value judgment on her life or anything. i wanted to start with someone with name recognition so we could have someone to hook our listeners onto. sofia coppola's movie had just come out. it is really no deeper than that. host: i have to ask this question, what did you learn in between your first podcast on marie antoinette and what did you do differently or add by the time you came back and did the two parter later? guest: "this american life" had some very good advice. basically, the first 100 times you do a thing it will not match the vision of what you do -- not match the vision of what is in your head. the first power cast -- the first podcast, the first sourdough bread, it will not be good the first time and you just have to move on. the hardest is going from zero to one and not one to two. the first challenge was b

of marie antoinette.hat means return to you, beckett. why marie antoinette? guest: i think in my vague idea i wanted to start with someone who had name recognition. it was not any value judgment on her life or anything. i wanted to start with someone with name recognition so we could have someone to hook our listeners onto. sofia coppola's movie had just come out. it is really no deeper than that. host: i have to ask this question, what did you learn in between your first podcast on marie antoinette and what did you do differently or add by the time you came back and did the two parter later? guest: "this american life" had some very good advice. basically, the first 100 times you do a thing it will not match the vision of what you do -- not match the vision of what is in your head. the first power cast -- the first podcast, the first sourdough bread, it will not be good the first time and you just have to move on. the hardest is going from zero to one and not one to two. the first challenge was being tec

there's definitely a moment and then reported from a couple sources redoes a dance with marie antoinette from a subset or feed couple times and she's laughing at him. becomes this awkward laughingstock in the set of people. super rich, superpowerful teenagers they are kind the same wherever you find them. the meanness that goes along with that gossip and trying to take him down all of that existed around him. it's part of what moves him out of that scene. it's very strange it's in some he as a person already feels comfortable in the littering and literally the most comfortable place on earth. he did not like it there. >> you bring up washington and lafayette were good friends almost family. he lives with washington for a while, sometimes though they are so different, right? you talk about lafayette losing help self and public washington would never. there is lots thoughts on slavery which i will get to are very different. they have a lot in common they both had to marry rich, fell in love and their partner, found good partners, and often felt most at home in these incredibly different si

." >> i would like to know about one lady, marie antoinette. >> oh, what a cutie. >> reporter: to make. read the tag, read it to the people. >> "this suit is 100 years old." >> that's what it is. >> how great, though, to be remembered as someone who makes people laugh. >> well. it's a good job. >> mel, thank you. this is so much fun to talk to you. >> george, this was a pleasure. now, i have a, you know -- >> shoot, go for it. >> yeah. i don't get paid for this. >> our thanks to george. >>> up next, france's highest honor for groundbreaking american entertainer and civil rights activist josephine baker. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list event. don't settle for products that give you a sort-of white smile. try crest whitening emulsions... experience the power of sanctuary ...for 100% whiter teeth. its highly active peroxide droplets... ...swipe on in seconds. better. faster. 100% whiter teeth. shop crestwhitesmile.com. people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes are waking up to what's possible

to hang out with the jocks and captain of the football team and the head cheerleader who is marie antoinette and really not able to do it, when he gets drunk, he becomes falling down drunk and the butt of peoples' jokes and definitely a moment in there reported from a couple of sources where he does dance with marie antoinette and steps on his feet a couple times and she's just laughing at him so becomes this awkward laughing stock in this set of people and you can imagine like super rich, super powerful teenagers have always like, they're kind of the same wherever you find them and the meanness that goes along with that, the jives and, you know, the gossip and sort of trying to take him down. all of that existed around him and part of what moves him out of that scene because of how uncomfortable he was. and it was very strange that when he finally feels like he's comfortable, it's like, it's in some crumby tent in valley forge is where he as a person finally starts to feel comfortable even though he was living in probably, literally the most comfortable place on earth in the 18th century wh

michael jordan sneakers going for $1.9 million you had an hermes kelly bag for $515,000 and a marie antoinetteo going for $43 million all of these assets just keep going up >> i'm trying to figure out the value in any of them we have to get used to not meez youring any inherent value when someone points to a crypto and says take your pick. the nft, was it the best one it must have been the best one probably can't make another like that the was a collect of 101 bored aip. this was a collection of 101 originals. you got 101 of them for $21 million, then you can break them up >> what is the coolest one >> i like them all all of the bored apes. if i could afford one, i'd get one but i can't. >> there are ways you can copy them put the cigar on the other side of the mouth? that's one i don't understand. sneaky vampires i get. >> the pudgy penguins, we get those too. >> @joe squak. >>> when we come back, the grey rethink inside the american work place and how the pandemic has changed more than you might think. later, don't miss our exclusive interview with union square's danny yemer and the new york