marie harf. you and i have talked about this before.r main contentions that you thought was problematic with this order. if that changes, are you okay with the rest of it? >> we'll see. we don't have many more details about what the new order might look like. i do think we have to wait and see. there is also some reporting saying that while the syrian refugees might not be singled out that all refugees might still be temporarily suspended from coming to the u.s., which i think a lot of people are concerned would turn into a permanent prohibition on any refugees coming here. we'll see what the language looks like. that could be a step in the right direction. could be. >> shannon: let's talk about what we think we know. until it is officially released we're speculating a little bit. this is what our reporting has been from the white house. drops the indefinite suspension of syrian refugees and excerpts legal permanent residents and visa holders, it blocks the admission of people with no previous status in the u.s. currently. stephen mille

joining me now, marie harf, former cia and state department's tale spokesmen under president obama. charles hurt, washington times political columnist. my guess is you are taking issue with the way the white house is going about this. >> i am. i actually agree with a lot of what judge napolitano just said. we have to distinguish between leaks of classified information, which the fbi looks into, i know, is looking into, and leaks of conversations between staffers at the white house. for me, the biggest problem is, if you can't be sure that your staff is loyal, without going through their phone, then, you have a bigger problem. the trump white house can't blame these leaks on the media, they can't blame them on the obama administration holdovers are career officials like he has tried to do with the fbi or with the cia. these are people working in the trump white house as part of his team. if sean spicer has to resort to this tactic of going through phones or threatening, saying this will look like recess, i think he has a much bigger problem on his hands and a few press stories. >> sa

us now from washington, michael rubin, a resident scholar at the american enterprise institute, marie harfpokesperson and fox news contributor. before we get to the iran sanctions, we want to get your take on trump's travel ban. just moments ago, a spokesperson for homeland security, "we h do not comment on pending litigation as a matter of policy." marie, you must be pumped up about this injunction. george w. bush appointee judge, you never thought you'd agreeho with him, did you? >> we all have strange bedfellows now. that's one thing i'm learning. this is what happens when you do policymaking without talking to people who actually have to implement these policies. this is really two weeks for the trip administration is doing a lot of big things, a lot of his supporters like that.ng when the rubber meets the road, that's why you're seeing not just judicial rulings that have put some stays on some of it, but also career experts, i know you don't like bureaucrats, but career experts who actually have to implement these policies saying, wait a second, we need to take some time and talkol th

let's bring in marie harf, former state department spokeswoman and fox news contributor. great to see you today. >> great to see you. >> shannon: tell us a little bit about the culture at the state department and what it is like to walk in as the new guy with tens of thousands of employees, of diplomats to really raise morale and get on the same page? >> rex tillerson has a lot of challenges here. you've seen a state department in the past few days over 1,000 foreign service officers have signed a dissent memo disagreeing with trump administration policy. there is no deputy secretary that has been named. no person that's been named to head embassy security. rex tillerson is walking in with big challenges. it is a place that prides itself on working for democrats and republicans. and he will walk in having to rebuild some trust and having to rebuild a senior leadership team that don't exist at the moment. >> shannon: what we're hearing from folks who have met with him, the diplomats are saying they've been impressed with him. he is a listener and wants to solve some of the

marie harf, former obama administration official. welcome to both of you.rspective on what we just heard. >> michael kinsley famously said that a gaffe is when a politician accidentally tells the truth. i'm really glad that she was trying to say that the media should be holding politicians accountable. but she accidentally said was the obvious truth that we have a media complex that to push narratives with a partisan agenda, manipulating facts. that is the entire problem that we have going on here. we see the differences in how they treated the obama presidency, versus the term presidency. the carrying of the water for the iran deal. the hostility. all of these problems that we see, that is a big reason why we have problems with media credibility. >> martha: why wasn't the motto for "the washington post," marie, during the last eight years, that democracy dies in darkness, as dire and dramatic as that is? >> i agree that the media, parts of it, can be incredibly self-important at times. seeing how they have covered this story over the past few weeks, has ha

marie harf, former obama administration official. welcome to both of you. some perspective on what we just heard. >> michael kinsley famously said that a gaffe is when a politician accidentally tells the truth. i'm really glad that she was trying to say that the media should be holding politicians accountable. but she accidentally said was the obvious truth that we have a media complex that to push narratives with a partisan agenda, manipulating facts. that is the entire problem that we have going on here. we see the differences in how they treated the obama presidency, versus the term presidency. the carrying of the water for the iran deal. the hostility. all of these problems that we see, that is a big reason why we have problems with media credibility. >> martha: why wasn't the motto for "the washington post," marie, during the last eight years, that democracy dies in darkness, as dire and dramatic as that is? >> i agree that the media, parts of it, can be incredibly self-important at times. seeing how they have covered this story over the past few weeks

marie harf, former state department deputy sports do make spokesperson, thank you. >> jenna: there isew report out about isis using drones on the battlefield peered by that raises concerns about security here at home. we are also awaiting the daily white house briefing set to start a few moments ago, and we will continue to watch the podium and when sean spicer steps to it, we will bring you there live. ♪ attention homeowners age sixty-two and older. one reverse mortgage has a great way for you to live a better retirement... it's called a reverse mortgage. call rfree information kityour with no obligation. >> jon: fox news alert, as promised, sean spicer's daily press briefing, let's listen in. >> press secretary spicer: allow him to take a few questions then resume their briefing and all of the fun that goes with it. without any further ado, director mick mulvaney. >> thank you so much good i want to talk a few minutes about the budget blueprint that the president started to speak about this money with the governors, want to talk a little bit about what it is and what it is not and t

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