know adam schiff who is there on that one of the main people who's i asking these questions to marie ivanovitch has said that you know witness intimidation is something that is taken very seriously but you know president trump has been sort of saying that any words that marie event of each went it was essentially a disaster and and trying to justify in some way his decision to bring her or to remove her from her position there in ukraine let's not forget that marie ivanovitch is a long standing at u.s. diplomat with over 3 decades of service so you know it's a pretty dramatic start to the 2nd day of you know this these public hearings a commitment stored nary a development of reporting for you from washington pablo foley alias thank you. well the impeachment hearings on capitol hill stem from a controversial phone call between president trump and his ukrainian counterpart back in july the man on the other end of that phone call ukrainian president volodymyr selenski is getting more attention from the u.s. than he ever wanted so how does the impeachment inquiry look from kiev and what's at stake

well helen marie ivanovitch was very well respected here in ukraine she was someone who understood understand this country very well she'd also been posted so ukraine and join a junior role before becoming ambassador she was outspoken in her criticism of failures to combat corruption on the part of the government that didn't make a popular with everyone but this was a through and through careful career diplomat not someone in the style of say trump's berlin appointee richard grinnell a more flashy media persona she was the consummate professional and someone who generally was very careful about what she said and to whom or what i want to pick up that will not point with regards to corruption with jonathan because during her testimony we heard time and time again micio about of it a point out that had always been to work on anticorruption efforts and that is why she believes she was targeted you mentioned jonathan that you've worked with her on such efforts tell me about her commitment to it yeah. well look there is there is no doubt every and this is again. i think the record in terms of our

as well one of the potential pitfalls then for the republicans then when when they question marie ivanovitch probably the biggest would be either too. i would suspect probably the biggest pitfalls would be to either try and question too aggressively so again with the with one of the great benefits of the best testimonies that it humanizes the impeachment case should they be too aggressive in their questioning that in terms of political perspective might be a harm to them depending upon how how harshly they go at it secondly if she is more willing to present certain things like specific names so again her implication that there were corrupt individuals in the u.s. who agreed with this if she was more if she would actually name some of those sort of individuals i assume that the republican counsel is not expecting any kind of answer like that if she would that would probably be something that would also undermine them just because it be so unexpected. while the chair of the house intelligence committee adam schiff said that trump's personal lawyer rudy giuliani made his opinions on opening an