ambassador marie yovanovitch and what role rudy may have played on forcing her out. might be a law that could change all of that. >>> also this hour, we have a special report on what may be the most dangerous place in the world right now. we're going to take you on the ground in the covid catastrophe in india. i'm going to talk to a doctor fighting every single day a growing crisis and exploding death toll. that's coming up. >>> but we do want to start with a growing controversy surrounding rudy giuliani. this week, a major escalation in the federal investigation of the former trump lawyer. the fbi raided giuliani's apartment this week and seized electronic devices. wnbc investigative reporter jonathan dean said this. one key avenue in the giuliani investigation involves seeking evidence related to giuliani's efforts to have then u.s. ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch removed from her position and whether those efforts violated the foreign agents registration act. federal authorities are right now believed to be scouring the confiscated devices for communicatio

ambassador to ukraine, marie yovanovitch. according to "the new york times," one search warrant stated that it was seeking evidence, related to the yovanovitch ouster. fbi agents seized giuliani's electronic devices to investigate communication he had with ukrainians about the effort. >> that warrant is completely illegal. >> reporter: on fox news, giuliani denied that he was acting on behalf of ukrainians, and blasted the prosecutors' decision to search his home and office. >> there is no justification for that warrant. it is an illegal, unconstitutional warrant. one of many, that this department of injustice, tragically, has done. >> reporter: giuliani, trump's personal attorney, met with ukrainian officials as he attempted to dig up dirt on joe biden. his boss's chief-political rival. giuliani's conversations with ukrainians, also, centered around their desire to remove ambassador yovanovitch. a career diplomat, who giuliani believed was hindering his efforts to dig up dirt on biden. during the first impeachment of donald t

, the firing of, in fact, marie yovanovitch, then ambassador to ukraine. let's listen to some of her testimony from the 2020 impeachment trial, the first impeachment trial, and then we'll talk. >> i do not understand mr. giuliani's motives for attacking me, nor can i offer an opinion on whether he believed the allegations he spread about me. clearly, no one at the state department did. what i can say is that mr. giuliani should have known those claims were suspect, coming as they reportedly did from individuals with questionable motives and with reason to believe that their political and financial ambitions would be stymied by our anti-corruption policy in ukraine. >> all right, so, glenn, it seems as if, in this testimony, she's talking about lutsenko who wanted yovanovitch out. we know this also from the impeachment trial and from text messages that surfaced during that impeachment trial, plus giuliani's search warrants had lutsenko's name on them. what does this mean? >> we've heard this is all about a fara violation, the foreign agents registration act

investigation, giuliani's successful efforts to have america's former ambassador to the ukraine, marie yovanovitch removed. it's the same law that got the disgraced and pardoned trump national security adviser, michael flynn, in trouble. much like the disgraced former general, the disgraced former mayor also received a warning that he might be the target of a foreign influence operation. in 2019 when giuliani was doing his ukrainian dirt dealings, giuliani was briefed that he was being targeted by a russian intelligence influence operation as part of moscow's effort to discredit biden and elect trump. giuliani's personal attorney tells nbc news no such briefing existed and that the raid was legal thuggery and that he spoke to allen dershowitz about what he claims are constitutional issues. joining me now is raja krishnamoorthi, assistant whip in the house and a member of the oversight and intelligence committee. as such, congressman, you had much opportunity to see documents and listen to testimony around the things that rudy giuliani was doing in ukraine at the behest -- we're not clear -- of don

this is in part to find potential evidence of the 2019 firing of the marie yovanovitch.liani's attorney is saying this whole raid is legal thuggery and he's never been a lobbyist for any agent or government and he's only spoken out publicly against marie yovanovitch because he believed she was undermining president trump. let's talk about his client and former president trump. >> the documents they seized, easily half of them involved my representation of the president of the united states as a lawyer and when i was a prosecutor when we used to obey the constitution you would never do this. >> so giuliani has deny good wrongdoing. he also calls the doj, corrupt and unethical. we should mention that my colleague craig melvin sat down with joe biden this week and asked him do you have any advanced knowledge of giuliani's home and office and he found out that the public did. >> thank you so much and we'll keep abreast of what happens with any potential announcement with your health. >>> manuel ruiz is chairman of the congressional hispanic caucus. congressman, we will talk

so at any moment donald trump could have picked up the phone and recalled ambassador marie yovanovitchni was working behind the scenes to try to dislodge ambassador yovanovitch who by all accounts was a really accomplished corruption fighter in her post as an ambassador. so if the president could have summarily removed her, why did rudy giuliani have to work behind the scenes to almost covertly try to push her out? that tells us -- and this is why i think you read that it's the working theory of the prosecutors. it tells us that rudy giuliani wasn't doing this for donald trump. he could have done it himself. what he was probably doing is what the evidence is beginning to look like is he was acting at the behest of powerful ukrainians who did not like ambassador yovanovitch's anti-corruption work. that is a really bad look for rudy giuliani. >> glenn, always good to see you. you make everything substantially clearer for me. i appreciate that. glenn kershner is former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. >>> coming up just weeks before andrew brown, jr. was killed by police in wha

, the same marie yovanovitch president trump later fired as ambassador to ukraine and testified during

, the same marie yovanovitch president trump later fired as ambassador to ukraine and testified during his impeachment trial that she was a victim of a smear campaign. >> i do not understand mr. giuliani's motives for attacking me, nor can i offer an opinion on whether he believed the allegations he threw at me. clearly no one at the state department does. what i can say is mr. giuliani should have known those planes were suspect coming from where they did, individuals with questionable motives. >> "the times" says giuliani wanted her out because she was blocking efforts to dig up dirt on the biden family in ukraine. now investigators want to know did giuliani get her fired to help trump, or just help ukraine or mean both? either way it's a sad twist from the life who went from a national hero who descended politics after 9/11 to a politician who peddles lies about a election. >> this instills a lot of feelings of anger and hatred and i ask the people of the city not to have those feelings right now or ever. >> the day since this devastating attack has led him to be called america's ma

the same marie yovanovitch president trump fired in april 2019 and who testified as a witness in hisial. >> our ukraine policy has been thrown into disarray, and shady interests the world over have learned how little it takes to remove an american ambassador who does not give them what they want. >> reporter: investigators want to determine if giuliani worked to get yovanovitch ousted from her position just to help trump but also to benefit ukraine's interest as he sought dirt on the bidens. it's also part of an inquiry into whether he work add as an unregistered agent for ukraine and president trump's personal attorney. federal agents served the search warrant on wednesday, seizing several electronic devices. >> about 6:00 in the morning there was a big bang, bang, bang on the door and outside were seven -- seven fbi agents with a warrant for electronics. >> reporter: giuliani insists he's never acted as a foreign agent. >> i can't believe these people would actually think i would do something like this, but obviously, the assistant u.s. attorneys hate me and they hate trump, which

on giuliani's conversations with officials in ukraine and the previous administration about marie yovanovitch. one of the reporters is with us. we want to remind everyone of her testimony in 2019 and threats she was under, she says, according to a supervisor at the state department. >> around 1:00 in the morning she called me again and she said that there were great concerns, there were concerns up the street and she said i needed to get -- come home immediately, get on the next plane to the u.s. and i asked her why and she said she wasn't sure but there were concerns about my security. i said my physical security because sometimes washington knows more than we do. she said no, she hadn't gotten that impression it was a physical security issue but concerned about my security and i needed to come home right away. >> we're joined by "the new york times" ken vogel. as we learn this raid created a sense overfear, what have you learned about how this raid on giuliani's apartment may be related to the u.s. ambassador to ukraine being removed? >> the investigators say evidence that relates conversat

. >> this hit piece has you admitting you forced out marie yovanovitch.i forced her out because she's corrupt. >> you know who else bragged about it, by the way? president trump with the infamous president who got him impeached. he said rudy knows very much what's happening. he's a very important guy. you should speak to him. >> rudy giuliani is saying i forced her out, that's kind of on camera. that's a problem. what else do they have to prove? >> they have to get into the issue of lobbying. we don't know exactly whether rudy was working on behalf of foreign interests. what we do know is rudy has deep personal interest, financial ties with ukrainians including lev parnas. as part of that case, john, remember, they paid him $500,000 through fraud guarantee. we don't know why. the question is does it relate back to that firing of marine o marie yovanovitch. you have to register with the department of justice. it's simple paperwork. i looked it up online. rudy certainly did not register. now, this is causing rudy and his supporters to say, who cares, it's a

ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch. the reporting that the feds want the know about rudy giuliani's efforts to get ukraine officials to open investigations into the bidens ahead of the 2020 election. also, nbc news congress firming "the washington post" reporting that fbi agents paid giuliani a visit in 2019, gave him a defensive briefing as it's known in the trade. warning him that quote he was being targeted by a russian intelligence influence operation as he sought to gather opposition research on the biden family. the u.s. government later made the warnings even more explicit releasing a public statement last year saying that one of the people he had been dealing with rngs ukrainian parliamentarian is a russian intelligence asset. giuliani's lawyer tells nbc news his client says the fbi briefing never happened. earlier on this network the other trump personal lawyer raided by the feds predicted that things could get difficult for rudy giuliani. >> one of the things that you talking about is marie yovanovitch and ukr

rest assured, this is not about marie yovanovitch. this is not just about ukraine. this could be about a multitude of other issues that shady rudy has been involved with. as i say, this is just the icing on the cake when it comes to the southern district of new york review. who knows what's in there. who knows the southern district of new york. >> joining me now is a former federal prosecutor for the southern district of new york. he specialized in corruption and fraud. good to see you again. what do you think this is about? what do you think led to this raid and seizure, and what do you think comes of it? >> first of all, i would say, michael cohen is correct because he's been through that system, he's been through the microscope of what the southern district of new york can do. he's had a search warrant executed on his stuff. what can it be about? i think michael cohen is actually right. it can be about anything. it can be any trail that the southern district of new york is going down. now, of course, we think based on what's already been charged, that case agains

the same marie yovanovitch president trump fired in 2019 and who testified as a witness in his firsttrial. >> our ukraine policy has been thrown into disarray and shady interests the world over have learned how little it takes to remove an american ambassador who does not give them what they want. >> reporter: investigators wants to determine for ukraine, while also -- >> reporter: federal agents served a search warrant on his apartment and office wednesday seizing several electronic devices. >> about 6:00 in the morning, there was a big bang, bang, bang on the door. and outside were seven fbi agents with a warrant for electronics. >> reporter: giuliani insists he has never acted as a foreign agent. >> i can't believe that these people would actually think i would do something like this, but obviously, the assistant u.s. attorneys hate me. and they hate trump, which is probably the whole thing. i mean to believe that i'm some kind of russian agent? >> reporter: giuliani's lawyers also strenuously denying a report from the "washington post," that the fbi warned giuliani and other repu

the same marie yovanovitch president trump fired in april 2019 and who testify as a witness in his firstment trial. >> our ukraine policy has been thrown into disarray. and shady interests the world over have learned how lilt it takes to remove an american ambassador who does not give them what they want. >> reporter: investigators want to learn if jewel ony helped oust her from her position -- all part of the long running criminal investigation into giuliani and an inquiry into whether he worked as an unregistered foreign agent for ukraine while also serving as president trump's personal attorney. federal agents served a search warrant on his apartment and office wednesday seizing several electronic devices. >> about 6:00 in the morning there was a big, bang, bang, bang on the outdoor and outside were seven fbi agents with a warrant for electronics. >> reporter: giuliani insists he's never acted as a foreign agent. >> i can't believe these people would actually think i'd do something like this, but obviously the assistant u.s. attorneys hate me, and they hate trump, which is probably th

related to finding potential evidence related to the 2019 firing of the ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch. giuliani's lawyer is saying this whole raid and legal thuggery, giuliani never lobbied for any foreign government and official and giuliani spoke out against yovanovitch publicly because she believed she was undermining then-president trump. let's hear about what giuliani had to say about the documents seized about his client president trump. >> i've never heard of someone blatantly violating the attorney-client privilege that way, and basically what they did when they took all my documents from the icloud, they admitted that there was attorney-client privileged information there and they decided on their own what they would use and what they wouldn't use. >> reporter: so giuliani has denied any wrongdoing and he hasn't been charged with any crime right now and he also believes that the department of justice investigation is corrupt. we should mention that president joe biden earlier this week sat down with my colleague craig melvin. craig asked him, did you have advanced knowledge o

what trump was impeached for the first time rudy tried to get the then ambassador of ukraine, marie yovanovitchhe saw her as an obstacle to his scheme, and that's what the feds are reportedly investigating and, by the way, rudy is basically already admitted to that >> i do not understand mr.giuliani's motives for attacking me nor can i offer an opinion on whether he believed the allegations he's read about me clearly no one at the state department did when i returned to the united states, deputy secretary of state sullivan told me there had been a concerted campaign against me >> this hit piece, and it's a hit piece. >> of course >> also has you on the record admitting that you forced out marie yovanovitch. >> of course i did >> you said you needed her out of the way, but you're a personal attorney to the president, so why do you need her out of the way >> i didn't need her out of the way. i forced her out because she's corrupt. >> seth: it's nice when the confession comes before the indictment usually you have to arrest the suspect first. get them in an interrogation room, and start grilling t

ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch.uthern district attorney's office is investigating whether giuliani violated federal law by working to oust yovanovitch on ukraine's behalf. president biden pledging not to interfere in the case, as donald trump declares the raid on his former lawyer is quote very, very unfair. joining me now, andy kroll, also with me jill wine banks, msnbc contributor and co-host of the hashtag sister-in-laws in law and author of "the watergate role". >> what do we know about the ousting of the ambassador? >> we know that giuliani in his capacity when he was acting at the president's personal attorney had put pressure on the trump white house to try to remove then ambassador marie yovanovitch from her post in kiev. she was viewed as an impediment to the fact-finding and dirt digging that giuliani and his cronies were doing in kiev to try to find information about president, or future president biden, then candidate biden, and his son hunter biden. yovanovitch was seen as someone who was not in line wi

he, also, says that he didn't expressly urge trump and pompeo to fire marie yovanovitch. but he also, sort of, seems to take credit for it. saying that the information that he provided, likely, did play a role in their removal. this is based on some interviews that i did with him, prior to the raid. since the raid, he's also blamed the biden administration and said that the justice department is politicized. and is going after him because of their -- their political motivations. but on the -- on the other hand, he is also admitting and saying that the justice department, in late 2019, served a search warrant or -- or -- or searched his icloud, without his permission. well, who was in charge of the justice department, then? it was bill barr and donald trump. and so, the -- the sort of explanation or the pushback that this is some kind of political investigation is undermined, a bit, by that admission. >> wow. rudy giuliani contradicting himself. wow. who knew? ken vogel, appreciate it. thank you very much. perspective now from daniel goldman, directly questioned ambassador

have come in contact with giuliani that he may have sought out regarding ukraine and ambassador marie yovanovitch. along with this extensive list, included are lev parnas, igor fruman. hopefully you have the list up there right now. federal authorities and legal analysts tell us this shows it is a major ramp-up in this investigation. new reaction does continue to pour in even though the giuliani camp is quiet today. we did hear this morning from congressman adam schiff. listen to what he told us. >> the focus of the investigation appears to be was rudy giuliani this person who was basically communicating with members of congress, with the president, was he secretly working for a foreign power, because he was making money from it or because there was some other bargain. that is, you help me get rid of the ambassador so i can help the president to do these sham investigations and i will help you in some other way, or i'll help you get rid of the ambassador for ukrainian reasons. i think that's really the predominant focus. is it possible they'll finding other corrupt things? without a doubt. i woul

ambassador to ukrainian marie yovanovitch. the ear of the president, which he did, and if he had the ear of members of congress, which apparently he did and was advocating for her removal, both to get her out of the way so he could dig up dirt on joe biden, but also because he was doing work for corrupt ukrainian politicians. that's a really serious offense. attorney/client issues are important, but what's very important here is that we get to the bottom of whether rudy giuliani or anyone else was acting as a foreign agent without informing the u.s. government. >> whatone trump advisor tells that the giuliani raid sent a strong message that the justice department here in washington may be more willing to go after trump and his inner circle. where do you potentially see the biggest legal exposure for the former president and his close allies? >> well, i think the biggest ex exposure for the former president is the indictment by the southern district of new york in which he was identified as individual one. michael cohen had to

officials about former ukrainian ambassador marie yovanovitch, it appears, kate, from talking to my sourcesreally looking at all-gnaw ''s efforts to oust her, and whether he may have run afoul of any foreign lobbying rules. >> paula, thank you very much for that reporting. >>> congresswoman liz they knee just put out a new statement as kevin mccarthy is doing nothing to back her up. instead, kevin mccarthy, the top republican in the house, applying new pressure on liz cheney. priceline works with top hotels, to save you up to 60%. these are all great. and when you get a big deal... you feel like a big deal. ♪ priceline. every trip is a big deal. ♪ you come and go ♪ ♪ karma-karma-karma- karma-karma chameleon ♪ ♪ ♪ you come and go ♪ ♪ you come and go-o-o ♪ ♪ loving would be easy if your colors were like my dreams ♪ ♪ red, gold -- ♪ [ tires screech ] [ crickets chirping ] for those who were born to ride there's progressive. with 24/7 roadside assistance. ♪ karma-karma-karma-karma-karma chameleon... ♪ new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. the m

ambassador to ukraine, marie yovanovitch. according to the "new york times," one search warrant saying it was seeking evidence related to the ouster and seized giuliani's electronic device, to investigate communications he had with ukrainians about the effort. >> that warrant is completely illegal. on fox news, giuliani denied that he was acting on behalf of ukrainians and blasted the prosecutor's decision to search his home and office. >> there is no justification for that warrant. it is an illegal unconstitutional warrant. one of many that this department of injustice tragically has done. >> reporter: giuliani, trump's personal attorney, met with ukrainian officials as he attempted to dig up dirt on joe biden. his boss's chief political rival. giuliani's conversations with ukrainians also centered around their desire to remove ambassador yovanovitch, a career diplomat who giuliani believed was hindering his efforts to dig up dirt on biden. during the first impeachment of donald trump, yovanovitch accused giuliani of mountin

ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch. >> obviously the assistant u.s. attorneys hate me and trump which is probably -- which is probably the whole thing. to believe that i'm a russian agent? look at my career. look at my background and my career. >> cnn's alex marquartd has the details. >> reporter: the agents swooped in raiding the office and home of rudy giuliani they were reportedly trying to zero in on the role he played of ousting the ambassador yovanovitch. a search warrant stated seeking evidence related to the ouster. fbi agents seized giuliani's devices to investigate communication he had with ukrainians about the effort. >> that warrant is completely illegal. >> reporter: on fox news he denied he was acting on behalf of ukrainians and blasted the search. >> there is no justification for a warrant. it is an illegal warrant. one of this in that department of injustice tragedy has done. >> reporter: giuliani's trump's personal attorney met with ukrainian officials. giuliani's conversations with ukrainians also centered around the desire to remove

msnbc confirms that investigators are looking in on radio rudy to the honorees role of getting marie yovanovitch fired from her post. that was spring of 2019. it was the new york times that brought this to life. the journal also matches other outlets reporting the feds want to know more about rudy giuliani's efforts to get ukraine officials to open investigations into the bidens ahead of the 2020 election. also, nbc news confirming the washington post reporting fbi agents paid giuliani a visit back in 2019. gave him a defensive briefing as it's known in the trade. morning him, quote, he was being targeted by a russian intelligence influence operation as he sought to gather opposition research from the biden family. the u.s. government made the warnings even more explicit releasing a public statement last year saying one of the people giuliani had been dealing with, ukrainian parliamentarian andre tokash is a russian intelligence asset. giuliani's lawyer tells nbc news his clients as the fbi briefing never happened. , earlier on this network either trump personal lawyer who was raided by the feds

he continued to lobby the trump white house to get rid of marie yovanovitch, the u.s.ithout registering as a lobbyist. that's what the warrant was for. >> tucker: i'm not on the show much. i'm not sure of the rules. i'm going to ask your follow up to the great katie pavlich. katie juan just said and other people are saying this, the difference is that hunter biden wasn't lobbying for anyone in the ukraine. what was he doing if he wasn't lobbying? if he was lobbying his father specifically then the vice president? was he applying his deep knowledge of eastern european energy business practices? why would they have hired hunter biden if ukraine except to lobby? sincere question. >> katie: that's precisely why hunter biden was hired by a foreign oil and gas company while his father was the vice president in charge of the ukraine profile. that's the entire point. influence pedalling. it's buying someone off literally to gain influence inside the united states government as his father is the vice president. when it comes to equal application of the law and this idea that th

ambassador to ukraine, marie yovanovitch. that's the focus of rudy giuliani's investigation. yuri lutsenko. he had met with giuliani multiple times and he was the person who had falsely said that the u.s. ambassador had spoken negatively about donald trump and that she had given him a do not prosecute list suggesting that she was corrupt. now, we also learned that two other ukrainians' emails were accessed. those include the former head of ukrainian fiscal service, roman, his email and icloud was searched. in addition to him, the ipad and iphone of a ukrainian businessman, alexander eleven, was also searched by prosecutors. these searches occurred in late 2019 and early 2020. that was just a few months after lev parnas and igor, two of rudy giuliani's associates, were arrested as they were about to board a plane there austria. this new information comes to light as rudy giuliani is fighting the search warrants that were executed on his home and office. this filing was made public today by parnas's attorney because he wants to obtain details about any of those materials that w

trying to zero in on the role that giuliani played in ousting the former ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitchted it was seeking evidence relate to the yovanovitch ouster. and one sieged located communications that he had about the effort. >> that warrant is completely illegal. >> reporter: on fox news, giuliani denied he was acting on behalf of ukrainians, and blasted the decision to search his home and office. >> there is no justification for that warrant. it's an illegal, unconstitutional warrant. one of many that this department of justice tragically has done. >> reporter: giuliani, trump's personal attorney, met with ukrainian officials as he attempted to dig up dirt on joe biden, his boss' chief political rival. giuliani's conversations with ukrainians also centered around their desire to remove ambassador yovanovitch, a career diplomat who giuliani believed was hindering his efforts to dig up dirt on biden. during his first impeachment of donald trump, giuliani yovan yovanovitch. >> and i cannot offer an opinion on whether he believed the allegations he spread about me. >> reporter: giu

ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch. how serious do you see this? >> very serious.nd now important that independent prosecutors are able to follow the evidence wherever it may be, maybe as high as donald trump but to do rudy giuliani no favors to sweep it under the rug. hold him accountable and to say that no one is above the law in our country. >> thank you for fielding that question. appreciate it. >>> that wraps up this hour for me. i'll see you back here 3:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow.0 p.m. eastern tomorrow symptom relief* and #1 for eczema symptom relief* gold bond champion your skin what can i du with less asthma? gold bond with dupixent i can du more... yardwork... teamwork... long walks.... that's how you du more, with dupixent, which helps prevent asthma attacks. dupixent is not for sudden breathing problems. it's an add-on-treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma that can improve lung function for better breathing in as little as two weeks. and can reduce, or even eliminate, oral steroids. and here's something important. dupixent can cause se

investigators were seeking evidence linking president trump's former lawyer to the efforts to fire marie yovanovitchukraine. she was also a key witness in president trump's first impeachment trial. yovanovitch told congress that she was the victim of a campaign of lies that led to her abrupt ouster in 2019. as part of the giuliani probe, the fbi seized evidence including his electronic devices. investigators are trying to determine whether his efforts relating to ukraine may have violated the foreign agent's registration act. no charges have been filed against mr. giuliani and he claims that the search warrant was conducted improperly. ken delanean joins us with more. >> great to be with you, joshua. on friday nbc news reported that the fbi back in 2019 had warned rudy giuliani that he was the target of a russian influence operation, according to a source familiar with the matter. well, a second source familiar with the matter is telling us today that that so-called defensive briefing, while prepared, while planned, was not actually delivered. so we have amended our story to reflect our latest under

ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch.y include lev parnas and viktor shokin and attorneys joe digenova and victoria toensing. this according to forces familiar with the investigation. toensing was served with a search warrant last week related to the investigation. the "wall street journal" reported on friday that the warrant to seize giuliani's electronic devices sought communications with anyone who may have worked with the former attorney to president trump on that push to have yovanovitch ousted from her position or on press thing ukrainian authorities to investigate the biden family's activities in the country ahead of the 2020 election. mr. giuliani efforts in ukraine were at the center of mr. trump's first impeachment on charges he' bruced his power by seeking ukraine's help in his 2020 election bid. giuliani attorney robert costello told nbc news his client did not do any lobbying of foreign officials and called the search warrants legal fugary and said he had spoken to alan dershowitz about constitutional issues

this has to do with ukraine and the american presence there, the acting ambassador marie yovanovitch.i targeting her which probably ultimately led to her losing her job and the trump administration. let's hear what she has to say about giuliani. >> i do not understand mr. giuliani's motives for attacking me, nor can i offer an opinion on whether he believed the allegations he spread about me. clearly no one at the state department did. but i can say is that mr. giuliani should have known those claims were suspect. coming as they reportedly did from individuals with questionable motives and reason to believe that their political and financial ambitions would be stymied by our anti-corruption policy in ukraine. >> maria yovanovitch with somebody that some powerful people in ukraine would've liked out of the way and ultimately that worked. i don't know how that makes it more or less serious as a crime. but it's more serious as a matter of national security that rudy giuliani may have been up to this kind of activity, either at the behest of the russian -- of the ukrainians were not. >> y

envoy to ukraine marie yovanovitch.y colleague jonathan capehart a short time ago. >> rudy knows what's on his cellphone, what's in his emails, what's in these chats he may have on encrypted apps. what about the possibility that donald trump is actually named in these communications, or don junior or jared or ivanka? maria yovanovitch, they already know what they have with her. everything else they're going to be able to find on those communication devices is just icing on the cake. >> giuliani has not been charged with any wrongdoing. joining me now to discuss it all, glenn kirschner, msnbc legal analyst and former federal prosecutor. i'm curious what you make of this. should anyone besides rudy giuliani be concerned about this investigation? >> you know, i think so, alex, because we've heard a lot about rudy giuliani's home, office, and electronic devices being searched by fbi agents pursuant to a federal judge issuing a search warrant because there was probable cause to believe a crime had been committed and there wa

ambassador marie yovanovitch.stimony before the house committee where she recalls a conversation with then security advisor john bolton. >> it was part of a conversation about the things that mr. giuliani was saying quite frequently in public. we saw him often on television making these statements, and i had already brought to ambassador bolton's attention the attacks, the smear campaign against ambassador yovanovitch and expressed great regret about how this was unfolding. in fact, the shameful way in which ambassador yovanovitch was being smeared and attacked. i asked if there was anything we could do about it. and ambassador bolton had looked pained, basically indicated with body language that there was nothing we could do about it, and he then, in the course of that discussion, said that rudy giuliani was a hand grenade that was going to blow everyone up. >> well, a year and a half later, things are certainly blowing up for rudy giuliani. that specific involvement in ukraine that fiona hill described is why he

ambassador marie yovanovitch removed from her position and whether those violated the registration act. lindsey reiser is outside giuliani's home in new york city. lindsey, i guess we're all waiting to see when mr. giuliani will make this statement. any sense of a timeline at least? >> reporter: hey, alex, yeah, our crew was the only one to talk to him this morning about that and we're still working to figure out when and if that big press conference or breaking something big in new jersey will happen. but we do know that we haven't seen him back here at his residence since that happened. we know we've been getting a lot of reaction from lawmakers on all sides here and also giuliani himself. he's been talking to newsmax a lot. he's been on his own podcast professing his innocence here. and again, it all goes back to this raid that happened this week. his doorman let fbi agents up. those agents showed the search warrant to giuliani, and they took a cell phone, a computer, and a laptop. they were here for about 45 minutes. they also executed a search warrant at his office. but it's exact

the federal criminal investigation into rudy giuliani is pulling for the firing of marie yovanovitch.surprised. host of the podcast dances with wolves, dr. jason johnson, msnbc political contributor and politics and journalism professor at morgan state university and aaron haynes, editor-at-large for the 19th. erin, i want to kick this to you because one of my most frustrating things about the medias when some of our colleagues asked what happened to america's mayor? number one, he was never america's mayor and a lot of us have been saying rudy giuliani has been garbage for a long time. ask some of the black and brown people in new york. they can tell you. what do you make of this fall of giuliani that people saw coming a long time ago, prior to 9/11, even. >> i think what we would tell them is the legend of rudy giuliani has been out there for decades, right? and also the relationship between donald trump before he was president and rudy giuliani also stretches back decades. so it really is no surprise that these two have intertwined fates and it's no surprise that, you know, we're s