. >> marilyn fitswater was press secretary for reagan and then bush, he told me she lived life of purpose, everything you asked her to do, you would have to as staffer explain why does this matter, why are we doing this, i'm not going to do interviews, i'm not going to sit there for no reason, why are we doing this, who are helping today, why does it matter, that is actually very interesting. if you're spread very thin, a lot of working moms out there, if you're trying to figure it all out, making that question be answered by people who are asking things of you, i think that was really interesting. you played the sound bite over speech -- shepard: part of it. >> i don't exactly remember but i was reading that that speech was actually very controversial. >> it was, yeah. >> they thought she was going to get protested and booed. >> a letter with a big number of faculty members object to go her coming because she did not in their view symbolize -- >> she had not done anything to earn that. she turned it around. shepard: with sentiment. >> one of the things she said, everybody can choose. the