er marilyn tavenner who is with us today will testify and we will discuss that in addition to the gao report. i'm sure we will hear that there was no loss of data that this was not the main site and so on. that doesn't change the fact that security risk exists whenever you fail to secure, not just the main site, but back doors. too often back doors have been what we've discovered. in the case of another investigation to this committee, we discovered that the back doors were something as simple in one case as a stolen laptop on which those who stole it later added peer-to-peer software, which then made information on that database available to the public, potentially. the federal trade commission opened an investigation and a plaintiff's trial lawyer sued and won money on behalf of people whose information was never actually released, but in fact both the government and plaintiff's bars thoroughly enjoyed going after a nonprofit aids clinic. i cannot and will not allow the government to put itself at a different standard of accountability. last month the center for medicare and medicai

miss marilyn tavenner is the administrator for the center for medicare and medicaid services at the department of health and human services, hereafter called cms today. miss ann barron-decamillo is the director of the u.s. computer emergency readiness team at the department of homeland security. here after culled cert. according to committee rules all members are to be sworn. will you rise and raise your right hand. do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give today will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? please be seated. let the record reflect that all witnesses answered in the affirmative. in order to allow sufficient time for your panel and what i suspect will be a robust series of questions, i would ask that you limit your opening statement to five minutes although your entire statements including the additional information that you may want to make available will be placed in the record. mr. -- you know what happened, without my talking point it's really hard. mr. wilshusen, please continue. >> thank you, mr. chairman. chairman issa, rank

other side of the fence, 27 members of the finance committee and some on this committee wrote to marilyn tavenner the head of the centers of medicare and medicaid services to say whoa, don't change the medicare "d" program that we have in this country. a very popular program under budget used by a great number of our senior citizens. and if we hadn't written a letter and if there hadn't been a real backlash from the people to save medicare part d, it wouldn't have happened. so we are sort of writing this thing as we go along. the president doesn't come to us and ask us to help him do that with each individual change. i'm just wondering with the problems you have up in canada, who makes the change? if, in fact, there needs to be a change? >> well, the answer to the question comes in two parts. first is acknowledgment of what senator enzi was saying earlier on, which is that like the united states, canada is a huge country. and our health insurance is actually not provided at the national or federal level. pr provincial level, or the equivalent of your states. so the notion that something can begin