sent to marilyn tavenner about, quote, a deep dissection with henry chow. specifically you wrote, marilyn, i'm also going to visit with henry, a team for one of our evening deep dive sessions to get up to speed on the latest status of i.t. and testing. there's no substitute for an evening deep dive. so i'll bring healthy food and snacks to baltimore and camp out with henry and team for a few hours, unquote. mr. park, please explain to me how you define deep detailed knowledge and then contrast that with a deep dive experience with mr. chow in that last for several hours. >> sir, i'd be delighted to. so in my practical experience, when you have really detailed comprehensive knowledge of a project, that comes from being the project manager. that comes from being the person who's in charge of running things. you know what's going on. you know each access of what's going on in an ongoing basis. and that's a role i've served in my private sector life, but that was not the role i was serving on the health care marketplace. that was cms's responsibility. what happe

economist a letter requesting he appear on december 9th, a request also to cms administrator marilyn tavennerying, quote: >> gruber triggered a firestorm afe was caught on cam that at -- caa at least six times saying the stupidity of the american voter helped in passing the the controversial law. and now lawmakers want answers. all right, harris, if i am sitting at that committee -- >> oh, i know what i want to ask. >> i ask if i'm darrell issa, i say your name is jonathan gruber? yes. you play the video. is that you in this video? yes. is that you in this video saying that you deliberately wrote the law so that states had to set up the exchanges to get subsidies? yes. no further questions, and let the supreme court -- >> and harris, would you like to stand up and -- >> harris, what are you doing here? [laughter] >> oh, there's harris. all right, so i would want to know, mr. gruber, based on what you've told us about what sounds like fraud, duping the people with not telling them everything they needed to know to make a good decision about contacting their local lawmakers and so on and trying

he has announced that marilyn tavenner, who was the head of the center for medicare and medicaid serviceso testify. some of her e-mails about the launch of the, the botched launch of the healthcare.gov web site were lost. the oversight committee will be taken over by utah republican congressman jason chaffetz in the next congress. martha? martha: wendell, thank you very much. ♪ ♪ bill: new revelations about all those missing e-mails from former irs official lois lerner. a special treasury department watchdog has found those e-mails, 30,000 pages. the irs previously claiming they had been lost for good. jay sekulow, chief counsel of the american center for law and justice, he represents several of the groups, and katherine, president of true the targeting. good morning to both of you. your reaction when the e-mails were found. >> no surprise. everything that the government has said to this point has proven to be the opposite of true. d.c. said they weren't involved, and they were. interagency collusion was supposed to not have happened, and it did. and now 744 backup tapes have been found

that is led to email from woman in charge, marilyn tavenner. she demanded the website up and running on time, no matter what. katie pavlich, foxnews.com and and -- town hall.com and fox news contributor. >> good morning. bill: she is number two from centers for medicare and medicaid. she is now retired. what bus the email tell us? >> essentially the email was written from michelle snyder you mentioned number two at cms for obamacare rollout. she wrote it to todd park, he will be testifying at a hearing today on capitol hill as lawmakers still a year after the first rollout have questions about security. but in terms of the email, michelle snyder wrote to todd park, her boss, miss tavenner, in charge of cms at the time basically would move forward with the obamacare launch just multiple requests for delay because the personal information of americans who would possibly be using the obamacare website to sign up for health care would be exposed to hackers and unsecured. not to mention the website wasn't ready in terms of technology side. it wasn't

and apparently, that came from marilyn tavenner, we can't get the information. we subpoenaed mr. he came. we've asked for records, we've gotten very little. and personal, identifiable information is going to be available. gao just two months ago said this web site is not secure today. and this is intolerable, and it was our responsibility to continue to try to find out something about it. bill: if it's not secure, people are still signing up, as you know, because the enrollment period is underway yet again. >> that's right. bill: you were trying to figure out ultimately, though, whether the white house knew that the healthcare.gov web site was so bad before it went public. did you get an answer? >> we did not. in fact, we asked mr. park over and over again. we tried to find out who was responsible, who was just hell bent on getting this web site operational on october the 1st, and we can't get those answers. bill: well, they're saying he was not involved, and i don't know where you go from here. >> well, he absolutely was involved -- bill: what's your next move? >> well, i'm leav

administrator massive lynn tavenner -- marilyn tavenner testified there were 7.3 million people enrolled in the health insurance marketplace coverages as of august 15. but remember the magic number was a sustainable program was still seven million. when you take a look at the oversight committee's analysis, it shows nearly 400,000 of these enrollees didn't purchase insurance through the exchange for health care. rather, stand-alone dental coverage. that takes the total number under seven million. on november 10, earlier this month, secretary burrwell said there was 7.1 million exchange enrollees as of the end of october. however, she also failed to break out the coverage of those stand-alone dental insurance indicating the true number, a true number as of last month likely closer to 6.7 or 6.8 million individuals. well, the nearly 20% drop in that exchange enrollees suggests that once many people learn about the obamacare problems, the extremely high deductibles, the narrow networks, they stopped paying. they stopped paying their premium in spite of the fact that there continues to be la