in that case, of the marina afghanistan that we don't use third parties that we don't use the united nations. that way don't opeople like myself, and president carter and others that have dealt with these negotiations successfully. our government has a sense of a policy, but i would have them expand the number of policy tools that they use, dedicate more, keep families better apprised, and also find ways to utilize third party entities that can be just as effective. who you don't want, i got involved in a marine case, we got the marine out, but you don't want the president, or the secretary of state trying to pressure the leader of mexico and the leaders to get this done. it works against you. so you want to do it quietly and effectively. >> are americans more vulnerable in this regard? more than bell junes or romanians or slovakians. >> well, i do think it would be difficult to envision the world in which the u.s. government became known for paying ransoms and the threat in dangerous parts of the world didn't rise. so i think the policy is currently generally the right one. i think