well, probably , after all, he was repelled by the fact that when he himself studied, when marina grigoryevnag, what do you think, that's in modern figure skating. what time do parents bring their kids to the skating rink? now is the optimal age, because 4 years, probably 4 years. but that is, as is, 3 years. children are amazing, as if developed, yes, that is, they understand. they are talking to the coach. they move well, that is, well, everything is relative, that is, individually, of course. for those who have just joined us, let me remind you that our guest is the most mysterious person in russian figure skating, team member terry georgievna tutberidze. sergei viktorovich dudakov. i always have a question. only one at all to our team. yes to uh tim tutberidze, the so-called, right? how can you help an athlete to to step over this fear, for example, before a quadruple jump? that is, how can you motivate it, how do you do it? well, as if there is no motivation, that is, we let everything down , not only me, that is, these are the regions. yes, not markovich, we all participate in this holi