good-bye. >> i have mario ballard, a 30-year retired fire marshal. can you hear me? >> i can hear you. i don't know if you can hear me. >> caller: i can hear you. >> caller: okay. first of all, a lot of people referred to the fire marshal. i was not the fire marshal. as troy said, i spent 30 years in the fire department, half of my career as a firefighter right down the street from the project at the fire station on grove and broadway, and ended up managing the plante region division. for the general public that's listening, and the commissioners, the buildings in san francisco are not unique. we have buildings that are four stories, wood frame construction, no sprinkler system, one way in, one way out. they're throughout the city, and the fire department deals with them on a regular basis. specifically, the issue of fire department access to this project has been extensively vetted by the fire department. when we had an additional preapp application meeting, the fire captain that was there, reviewing our proposal and the site plans personally visited the site. the e