mario batali: no, no, no. our mistake was, instead of creating something we could sell as a group, like people in this room are doing, we built 21 one-offs, in which case they are not really valuable as an expandable chain or group of restaurants. >> for growth. >> you have 21 to choose from. you could choose one of those 21 to do that with. >> that's what we're doing now. it has to be the casual concept. for us, we think pizza is the way we will go. >> you are expanding, i mean, singapore -- >> right. betty liu: how about you, bobby? when you built your businesses, did you think about them for the next 50 years? bobby flay: when i opened mesa grill, i had just turned 26 years old. and so, i was not thinking about anything except the next weekend. i was not worried about how long the restaurant would be around. i just wanted to build a restaurant that i always wanted to build, and mesa grill was that restaurant. i had always seen that restaurant growing up. it was a big restaurant. it had a lot of energy to it