mario centeno in lisbon, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. thank you for having me.saw deep divisions within the european union at the beginning of the covid—19 pandemic. have those divisions been healed?“ you look back, you may see that these divisions have played a role in all the debate. but at the end of the day, we were able to act fast in a very flexible way, and for me, as president of the euro group, which is very important in a very pragmatic way, we had a few goals to achieve, to react quickly in a sizeable way and in a way that prevents further fragmentation of the european union and especially in the european union and especially in the eurozone. but ifi the european union and especially in the eurozone. but if i made, the european union and especially in the eurozone. but ifi made, you really didn't react quickly, did you? we saw the chinese government offer a medical assistant to italy long before other member states of the european union, and we saw some of the members, like the dutch, for example, criticising southern european countries for the weakne

well, my guest today is mario centeno, finance minister of portugal and head of the eurogroup of ministers