address these challenges, step by step, knowing that as my good friend former governor of new york mario cuomo used to say, in politics you campaign in poetry. but you govern in prose. the same thing is true of citizen service. you work in prose. you take one step and another step and another step, and pretty soon you look around and you walked several miles and a lot of people's lives are better as a result of it. i thank you for your commitment to take those steps. now, i want to introduce our host who has worked tirelessly to make education possible for thousands of students. the president of george washington, dr. steven nab. i want to tell you about him. he has a long history of supporting students. he was a professor of english literature at the university of california at berkeley. dean of the college of arts and sciences at john hopkins university up the road in baltimore. as president of george washington he's made at priority to increase student opportunities for public service. in order to be accessible and better serve the students here he chose to take up residence on the campus,

so new york under mario cuomo liberal cut their rate from about 10% it, i think 7.5% because the top rate on the federal level went from 50 to 28. so virtue begins at the federal level, it forces virtue on the state level. >> i'm worried we're taking our eye off the ball a bit because this is an opportunity right now. we're in a very low growth period. this is a time when we can focus on trying to increase growth. why do we need to do that? because wages are connected to productivity. and productivity is connected to investment. that we know. so the key thing is using this opportunity to try to get investment going and i would argue again for this is the time to propose not taxing investment. this is exactly the time that we should be focusing on cutting dividends, cutting capital gains taxes, and allowing full depreciation right away with infinite carry forwards because this is probably the best opportunity to do it. >> let me ask the panel whether they agree. let's just say hypothetically that it was just about impossible to make any cuts in personal income tax rates but you could

so in new york under mario cuomo, liberal, cut their rates about 10% i think, or 7.5% because the top rate at the federal level went from 50 to 20. so virtually -- >> i'm worried we're taking our eye off the ball because this is an opportunity right now if we're in a very low growth period if this is the time we can focus on trying to increase growth. why do we need to do that? because wages are connected to productivity and productivity is connected to investment. that window. so the key thing is using this opportunity to try to get investments going. i would argue again for, this is the time to propose not taxing investment. this is exactly time we should be focusing on cutting dividends, cutting capital gains taxes, and allowing full depreciation right away with infinite care reform. is probably the best opportunity to do it. >> let me ask the panel whether they agree. let's just say hypothetically it was just about impossible to make any cuts in personal income tax rates, but you could either eliminate entirely capital gains rate and dividends, that sort of thing that eddie is tal

address these challenges step-by-step, knowing that as my good friend, former governor of new york mario cuomo used to say, in politics you campaign in poetry, but you govern in pro. the same thing is true of citizen service. you work and you take one step at another step and another step and pretty soon you look around and you walk several miles and a lot of people's lives are better as a result of it. i thank you for your commitment to take those steps. now, i want to introduce our host, who has worked tirelessly to make education possible for thousands of students, the president of george washington, dr. steven knapp. i want to tell you a little about him. he has a long history of supporting students. he was a professor of english literature at the university of california at her glee. dean of the college of sciences and provost at job hawkins university in baltimore. as president of george washington is made it a priority to increase student opportunities for public service. in order to be accessible and better served for the students here he chose to take up residence on the campus. the f