it probably started when mario dragge failed to deliver more even though he didn't say he was going to. even today's "wall street journal" points to the second guessing, rethinking of negative rates, but that is all will most likely disappear. chris ruppke, who knows as much about the japanese markets as any, was my guest today. he was talking about negative rates. i asked him about ben bernanke and stan fisher. they seem to be laying the groundwork for a possibility of these rates being used as policy tools in the u.s. i can't fathom why. you know, i understand the experiment. well, i guess i don't really understand the experiment. i am so sick and tired of the notion that they have to do something because congress isn't. first of all, it's a really bad reason. second of all, what they're doing is experimental, which takes it into a new realm of i don't understand it. my guest also pointed out that negative rates above and beyond the notion that they're unproven and could be highly dangerous, try explaining that to the end user, the consumer, the citizens of these countries pip know t