mario: coffee time. ♪ betty: we are back with mario gabelli. we've fixed your microphone. rio: i thought you were going to monthly. betty: you mentioned what next. people arext up and indering, investors particular, whether tom dooley who is the interim ceo, whether he is the person to permanent league replace will? mario: if i was sherry, the last thing you want to do is get rid of both of them. i like tom. he's done a great job. betty: even though he has been an architect? >> i have a general contractor and the architect is pulling the spring -- pulling the strings and there's always a fight. you cannot hire a ceo -- this is a perfect, logical thing. if he makes the right changes, that's one thing but if he can't, what do you do question mark in company with scale and that has a certain attraction and that needs to be fixed. betty: but you are willing to give him a chance? mario: i gave him six or eight months back in february or march and that's over. you've got 50 new direct errors on. -- he's gotsing until the end of the fiscal year. why would anyone want to change the