liz: you guys at red arts capital, nicholas, have pretty heavy investors, mario gabelli, john canning, these are big, big names. how do you get them to pay attention to what you're doing and what was it that you think attracted them? >> well, again, going back to when we started the firm, the goal was to build a brand and a focus on supply chain logistics, and our belief, quoting warren buffett and my former mentor john rogers and benjamin graham, they all believe in the importance of having strategy that's built on focus, so by being focused, by having expertise, that's our approach to investment and a lot of people saw value in that. liz: chad it's juneteenth. we look at minority investors. they are such a huge part that it's ridiculous to call the minority investors. they are majority now. there are some brilliant finance managers, people of color. what do you feel is a goal or a mission when it comes to what you do and expanding your knowledge to more people who perhaps up and coming people dream of being in the world of finance? >> sure. so diversity is very important to us. it's