francine: mario monti. mario: i have not heard a word on research.know that research is a key driver of economic growth. there is at least one aspect where the eu is doing quite well. so well that much of its funds go to british universities and research centers. and i wonder what would our british friends make of a u.k. out of the eu in this respect. secondly, and finally, everything i said, i want to stress this, this morning, is not whether brexit will be in the interest of the eu or not. i came because i've been invited, here in london, to my cells in the shoes of british consumers, companies, and even of the u.k. can i venture to say that there would certainly be some advantages, mainly disadvantages for the eu, if the u.k. were to leave us, but there might also be one big advantage. which is not the one you are considering, namely, no longer to have to deal with this rather difficult partner. i, for one, would make the proposal the day after the u.k. leaves the eu, that the eu should finally shift to one official language only, english. because

francine: i'm asking mario monti, he was there. mario: i was there. i was there to eliminate many regulations. it is true there are too many , and we learned from the brits that there's a name for this, which is silver plating. which is an obscure terminology to indicate that on top of the by thel proposal commission, the council, the parliament, then each member state -- the u.k., i'm afraid the very first place, at the -- heref transposing there are nostalgic spirits, which are very nice things. at the moment of transposing a directive into national --islation, there is businessn is driven, inspired perfectionism, which couple kids the directive more and more. may i come back for a second to a proposition that i, in principle, admire of lord lawson. the countryindeed that has the greatest global perspective. but i think the word leadership slipped into your language. i'm afraid that is the nostalgic concept. the u.k. is extremely helpful to all of us to gain, because it has had, for centuries, a global perspective. but the global perspective would h

we have mario monti, jon moulton, carolyn fairbairn, lord norman lamont, and maurice levy.