councilman marion barry.r drug charges after he was videotaped smoking crack in 1990. earlier this month he was punished and fined for accepting illegal gifts from city contractors. you are quite open with what happened to you and quite above board and many people are surprised that you even accepted coming on the show. why would you accept to come on the show quite honestly, mayor? thank you for joining us, by the way. >> first i wanted to clear myself in terms of what the fbi did in my situation. it's different than congressman weiner or governor spitzer. i was entrapped by the fbi. they spent $7 million to $10 million trying to entrap me at the vista hotel. they've been looking in my trash and everything else following me around. i want people to know that what was in that package, they wouldn't even tell us. they tried to kill me i think. they had a paramedic there. my story is totally different. it's not of my own behavior. it's the behavior of the fbi and the american government that got me where i was.

my guest, marion barry, and his scandal worse, and he was videotaped smoking what the feds alleged whataine, and he plead guilty and did six months in federal prison and got re-elected mayor anyway. and so welcome. >> you are wrong about something. >> what am i wrong about? >> you are wrong about the fact that i got convicted of smoking crack. that didn't happen. the government spent $7 million to try and entrap me, and out of the 12 jurors, nine black jurors said they ought to acquit me and the three white ones said they should convict me, and -- >> mayor, time-out. time-out. you are not re-writing history here. you were convicted for cocaine? >> no, at the trial the federal government refused to produce evidence of what was in that pipe, and they had a pair phra c paramedic -- >> i never smoked crack. i don't know what it was. >> so you were smoking it and you didn't know what it was? i don't want to relitigate your case. >> stop this about me doing something that is not factual. i have not bought crack from anybody and have not smoked it. simple as that. that's a fact. >> mayor, mayo

guest, mayor marion barry, and then gayle is the wife of pastor ted haggard, who stepped down after hisually, and then of course, to you, penny, what do you think about uma staying by her man? is that that a noble aspect? what is it? >> first i need to say, we're missing a really important point and that's character counts. as much as we have got to reach out to folks that are struggling, there is hope for all of your viewers struggling with addictions or infidelity in a marriage, and there is hope for you and god forgives you, and there are people that want to help you. and these guys are asking how do i survive a scandal, instead of asking how do i become a man of character and what do i do to change my life? i would point them to the founder of prison fellowship ministries that went to prison for watergate and came out and spe spent of rest of his life talking to millions of prisoners and he died a hero in 2011. that, my friend, is redemption, and that is real power and that's what these guys should be looking for. >> good point. >> i am sick of the guys that just want to live in man

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ward 8 where marion barry is, a councilman, has 38% poverty, the highest in 30 years. it is so nuts for places like that, by the way, there are a million ward 8s in this country to deny people a job, to deny people access to things that would make their life more comfortable, this to me seems suicidal and mean-spirited. >> imagine just a few people deciding for people that would line up for jobs at wal-mart immediately to get those jobs, and by the way, around the country, the last i looked, i thin it was like $7.50 minimum wage so they are above it, the highest is 9 at this point in time or one or two states. this is just ridiculous. you're letting a few people dictate policy. this is pure politics and it only will kill joobs going forward and set a terrible precedent. >> 12.50 is not a lot of money. >> i'd like to say one more thing. >> you brought that up. >> you brought that up, but let me bring something up. 12.50 is not necessarily a lot but it's a lot more than zero. it's a lot more than zero. >> think of it this way, charles. the big problem is not that it's 12

that is the believe same town as marion barry. >> that is right. veryt marion barry was much in the national movement. national movement. he was very involved. many dedicated, committed young people. >> and james their fault. >> he organized the children who stayed in birmingham. and you have waves of thousands of young people who were willing to march, to face their the clubs and dogs. , it waso to birmingham so powerful. they would pick people up and drop them. they took fark off of trees. off of trees. you go there and there's the 16th street church with a very brave young men and women. jim cla, one day this man, he took a young -- a group of young people and said, i did you want to march? he took them out on the highway and then chased them with men on horseback. us went to jail and slept on floors in selma. raises, by the way -- and by the way, we're going to come back to your questions in just a few minutes. i think you so beautifully set up the question. i heard -- when i found out i was honored enough to be here with you tonight, this was

marion barry wrote, "my heart and all of my prayers go out to his family." >>> investigators are talking to the crew of the members of the asiana airlines, the one that crash landed in san francisco. issue number one is the plane's speed and why it was coming in so slowly. jim handly's at the live desk with new video and new information about asiana airlines' president. jim? >> reporter: that's right. we just learned minutes ago that the president of the airlines will travel to san francisco tomorrow to meet with his crew members and could face possible questions himself from the northeast. now let's go to that new video taken in the second after saturday's crash. you can see the emergency chutes deploying from the aircraft. those chute s as we know were te routes to safety for many of the people who survived the crash. one that became unavoidable because of the plane's lack of speed in the final seconds of the flight, leading the plane to come up short of the runway and cartwheel after touching down. now less than a minute before the crash, the boeing 777 was at an altitude of 1,000 fee

the plan has the backing of marion barry.s fund run. you can register between 8 a.m. and 10 a.m. this morning. proceeds will benefit friends of george's county crime victims fund. here is amanda meadows with a check on traffic. >> very slow going on 95 northbound. construction is starting up. we have slow going traffic coming down 95 southbound near dale city. that is due to construction. you have got the lane closures. stick with the middle lanes and you should be just fine. a disabled vehicle is working northbound in that same area past prince william on the shoulder. 395 northbound before the 14th street bridge you have a breakdown blocking the left lane. moisture in the air right now. a couple of sprinkles trying to make their way. 81 degrees as our temperature. on the radar, the light band of sprinkles pushing through the metroplex at this time. we will see more showers later on today and into tomorrow. temperatures are down because of the cloud cover. look at the great weather to end the week. >> looking for to that. th

charles: marion barry, one of the guys that passes.eighborhood is being left out of this and how can he look. >> you know, we have a pretty good memory about that. its not just wal-mart, i think it is macy's and other stores as well. but i will say that you can always go to wal-mart, virginia, maryland, go down there, get in your car,. charles: what about the idea that this is in other places besides california? >> they tried this in chicago and the mayor vetoed it. so wal-mart has a pretty bad record of treating its employees this way. because they move peopleto part-time, it is not a great place to work as an employee. charles: we have 2000 jobs in my thing. no matter how that they might be, i'm sure there are a lot of people out there who are grateful for their jobs and wish that they could get one. >> that's exactly right. the unemployment rate is well above the national average and this is not only about providing jobs, but putting them in poor areas. some areas were the only option key is places like mcdonald's and other fast foo

marion barry is going to introduce a bill to require newly hired district of columbia workers to live in the district or at least move into the city within 180 days of getting the job. barry says the bill would have a positive economic ripple effect on the city because the city could collect property and income taxes from those government workers. he says right now just 43% of d.c. city workers actually live in the district. this bill would have -- [indiscernible] >>> today the d.c. council is also scheduled to take a final vote on a living wage bill that would require larger retailers to pay workers $12.50 an hour at least. that has wal-mart now threatening to pull the plug on three of the six store it is was going to open in the d.c. area. and possibly abandon three others which are already under construction. the regional manager calls that bill arbitrary and discriminatory. >>> immigration activists have plans around capitol hill today. >> they're -- there are demonstrations for a comprehensive reform bill now include a same-sex marriage ceremony between a u.s. citizen and her und

and marion barry was real before i got there.going to go through something in life. all of us are going to get knocked down by something. and and the question is when you get up. >> so this is interesting, you laid on some of these questions of like race and spirituality and redemption. but michael, i'm thinking, apparently white folks are feeling pretty forgiving these days too. we had vitter, right? my senator came back, no problem. sanford's come back. and now it looks like weiner spitzers are going to win, or at least spitzer is likely. weiner is -- >> he's in the race. >> yes. >> this is wild. >> i know! >> i'm a new yorker. we had giuliani, we have bloomberg. and now we're looking at weiner spitzer?! this whole situation has been -- the whole race, both races have been turned upside down in this city. and certainly, i believe, i believe, that spitzer certainly got in this race, because he saw that weiner's polling numbers were looking pretty good. >> sure. >> absolutely. >> and certainly that's an inspiration for mr. barry

at its best marion barry was an advocate mayor and then what are called the political although this is kind of stereotype but for purposes of argument technocratic mayors. it turns out that these mayors who are advocating and these mayors who are kind of running things really actually need a bland. what do i mean by that? 70% of the time you really do the blocking and run your city but you've got to do more than that. you've got to lead this network that they are talking about. i think there are many players in this network and i would argue that it's the mayor's job or could be the county executive, depends on the situation, it's your job to lead this this network in an arc to lead this network you have to pick up two things. one yet to make sure you are paying attention because if you are not answering anyone's phone no one will take you seriously and two if you want to believe this network you have a limited bandwidth. you can only really be gone one or two or three things. you can go to the network and say okay i have an 80 priority program. no, you have to have one, two or three t

marion barry. this is a shock -- i know you'll find this shocking news. ethics committee found that he actually did something wrong right? >> actually, that sort of is -- because you know, i went back. i was thinking when was -- when was he ever fined for -- what's the worst consequences he's ever suffered for one of his missteps? obviously, you know, everyone knows about 1990, the crack bust. you know, he went to trial on that. he got off on the most serious charges, the felony charges in that case. he was convicted one misdemeanor, did a few months in prison. obviously very serious. since then, he's been in trouble every now and again. >> bill: find him with drugs in the car. >> that was all dropped. he didn't pay his taxes for years and years and years. he got probation for that. >> bill: he's really always been able to skate for the most part. >> there was an incident with the council. he had some contracting issues, gave a contract to his girlfriend. he was censured but no real consequences. so for him i think this may be the first time he's had to p

marion barry in d.c. what do you think?do you think it is a matter of time before this scandal goes away? >> no. i don't at all. i think that -- the city of san diego is paralyzed at the expense of the 70-year-old man who is, quite true, has one more shot to regain power and that's this -- mayor -- he has to resign. democratic party in san diego is begging him to resign. it is arrogance and selfish must and the reason many people believe that politicians are the lowest form of human life. it is absolutely irresponsible and unacceptable. >> all right. we are seeing something -- similar play out in new york with an hothony weiner in the mayoral race in new york. the new revelations coming out of him sexing with other women. what is it with these politicians not wanting to step down? even -- amid the chorus of people calling for them to drop out of the race. what do you think? >> i mean, i think when it comes to an hone weiner, he's just really arrogant and out of touch. in a way his judgment is really off. thinking that he ca

marion barry was in the movement. he was the first chair of the national committee and i became the third chair. as a student and is a register and, marion was very involved there were plenty of unbelievable groups committed and dedicated young people. >>james bibble. he organized the children's crusade in birmingham >> you have waves of hundreds of young people that were willing to ,arch, to face the bulldogs fire hoses. go into birmingham and see the fire hoses. it was so powerful. they took part of a tree. tree.k off of a you walked to the 16th street baptist church and there were very brave young men and women. it was even in selma. the children, crusaded. this mean man, he took a group of young people that was marching and put them on a forced march. he said if you want to march, he took them out on a highway and then chased them with men on horseback. jail ands went to slept on floors in selma. we are inviting -- i will check my watch -- will invite your questions in just a few minutes. i think use of beautifully

the work, marion jones, barry bonds, those were irs matters because of flow of funds. the irs has very broad authority in this area. what happens is you get referrals from the other elements of the agency or from the public, and the investigators take a look at it, and if it merits criminal prosecution, it goes into the department of justice. as with some of the, some of the work in the abusive shelters that i already mentioned. so that's a key unit of the irs. you have another piece called wage and investment. that handles those 145 million or so returns. the new york city schoolteacher, the manager of the walmart in los angeles, the filer that has a pretty simple return. now, remember, two-thirds of all americans don't even itemize. they file a standard return. and that's, by the way, just parenthetically why we don't have tax reform. if everybody itemized, if it wasn't simple enough for most people to file either doing it themself or through a return preparer, you'd have much more of an uproar. but people have to deliver that filing season i talked about a few minut

marion barry's reputation and all of the recent problems we've had with michael brown. they see washington as a corrupt city. is it? >> well, currently, there is a crisis in ethics among our elected government. certainly when this happened in illinois. that no one came in and took their statehood away. louisiana, not to -- say anything bad about our brothers and sisters in louisiana and illinois. they've got a lot of elected government in prison. so that has happened in d.c. but you know, through that, we still have -- we've got a great economy. we're growing as a city. our city is doing extremely well. certainly is a crisis in government. that's why i'm making the changes i'm doing is that -- it is completely unacceptable. we root it out and ask the voters to take care of it. >> bill: and you have -- how long have you been on the city council now? >> i've been on the council for six years. before that i, i was on the d.c. school board for six years. >> bill: you have indicated you might decide -- might seek the opportunity to step up and be mayor of washington, d.c. ne