host: marion blakey with us today.he became the eighth full-time chief executive of the association back in 2007. prior to that, five years as the administrator of the faa and with chairman of the national transportation safety board. guest: they thought this was going to be a sort -- would hang over everyone's head and forced the super committee -- remember the super committee? the idea was to set up absolutely intolerable alternatives that would force people to come to the table and deal with what really is at the heart of this. we have unsustainable programs. these are areas that have to be reformed. and our revenues-are spending. we need tax reform as well. those two things are hard to do. as a result, i think it is fair to say the congress back up. they did not get it done. now there staring off a fiscal cliff. host: democrat line, ohio. caller: good morning. i am sure this is like a nightmare to all of you, the works with congress and senate, but i am wondering when the tarp money was given to the banks and auto