three core values that marjorie taylor greene does not have. we've read aloud from her, and she's good, she is good at spouting off utter nonsense as absolutely nothing to do with what's going on in our district. i guarantee you, georgia, if you allow me to be your next congressman, i will work day and night for you. constituent services, something that you are not getting right now. our mayors, our city council members, they will have a seat at the table in d.c. there needs will be met. right now i could tell you i've talked to a lot of them, they haven't heard from marjorie taylor greene. >> you may rebuttal, and then your question and i will let you go back to answer the infrastructure question. rep. greene: thank you very much. you have no right to attack the hard-working people in my constituent services. they do a phenomenal job and you know nothing about their hardware because they have served their constituents in northwest georgia over and over. so i will not have you attacked them, they love their jobs, they love serving and helping p

reporter: do you think kevin mccarthy can control marjorie greene and her allies?mccarthy gets majority of 25% that he can disregard marjorie greene. the fact is they are paying attention to marjorie greene and she thinks it is because she represents the base of the party which is still controlled by donald trump. reporter: the title of your book is -- weapons of mass delusion. how deep does the delusion go? how dangerous is it for the country? >> it is deep and dangerous. it is the real focus of the book. the delusion of tens of millions of americans who continue to believe that the 2020 election was stolen and that democrats cheat to win but also believe the corollary lies. for example, january 6 was either the work of antifraud or a peaceful protest or staged by the fbi. they believe covid vaccines are ineffectual or killers. reporter: all untrue. >> that is right. when you have party that is based on tens of millions of individuals believing in things that are provably false, you have to ask when will truth the restored? and one -- and what does one make of a p

yes, that marjorie greene. marjorie taylor greene.owner, and mother of three, by 2019 had traded in the anonymity of keyboard, to the lawmakers in person. that was wandering the corridors of capitol hill, and yelling outside of the doors of ocasio-cortez's office, in a since deleted video that was gone by cnn's kfile. take a. watch gone by cnn's kfile. take a watc we will see, we will go vit alexandria cortez your cortes, crazy, eyes crazy, eyes hang with, us alexandria or casey oh cortez, i am an american citizen, i pay your salary with the taxes that you collect from me through the irs because i'm a tax banks citizen of the united states. you need to stop being a baby, stop blocking your door, and come out and face the american systems that you serve. if you want to be a big girl, you need to get rid of your diaper, and come out and be able to talk to the american citizens instead of us having to use a little flap. sad. >> childish, abusive, and let's be honest unhinged. in another video from that time period, greene said that aoc's

but it's important to understand with a republican house, if kevin mccarthy is speaker and marjorie taylor greeneoing to have to fight over aid to ukraine and i am worried about that. >> we will talk to that in the next hour with a republican candidate for the house. thank you for your time. >> we see you wearing the ukrainian flag there. thank you. we appreciate it. good luck. come back and talk to us regardless of what happens. appreciate it. >>> ahead on cnn, we are going to speak -- cnn speaks with an election denier now in charge of his county's voting tomorrow. >>> plus a suspicious white powder found at the campaign office of kari lake. we're live w with that story straight ahead mp heart-poundiding design. intelligent technology. ♪ courageous performance. discover a new world of possibilities with a bold new take on the lexus rx. never lose your edge. when they're sick, they get comfortable anywhere and spread germs everywhere. wherever they rest protection nothing kills more viruses, including the covid-19 virus, on more surfaces than lysol disinfectant spray. lysol. what it takes to pro

marjorie taylor greene appeared on stage with nick fuentes. where did she then appear the next day and i would talk to matt who is the head of cpac who has been a longtime figure in conservative politics and i pressed him, how can you legitimize marjorie taylor greene and she told me it is not for him to cancel anybody. it is important to have these voices be present and which, of course, why isn't liz cheney invited here? that is the reality what joe is saying here is that marmgry taylor green is not a fringe figure. paul gosar is not a fringe figure. andy biggs and talked about running for the house speakership. i mean, these are individuals who are the republican party now and frankly view your silence from individuals who would rather not -- you will not hear a rob portman and you will not hear from the adam kinsinger and liz cheney. those folks are out the door and the traditional lawmakers that we used to go to for comment and the anti-trump quote, those are going to be gone. >> the thing that i would be interested in is not only have we

first of, all marjorie taylor greene recently said that she is aligned with kevin mccarthy. mething unless she's been promised something. matt gates is against marjorie taylor greene because he wants to be more famous than her. >> more famous. republicans are projected to take the house of representatives with a narrow majority. back with us to discuss, former minnesota democratic senator al franken, host of the pond passed bearing his name, and -- former member of the u.s. house of representatives. he's now chairman of the serve america movement, and then and miss and be c political contributor. i don't think you got hacked today. i know there's a lot of impersonators on twitter, but i saw a tweet i believe was from you, i'll, that said, congrats to horrible lying [bleep] kevin mccarthy on a nomination to lead a terrible group comprised almost entirely of not jobs and [ bleep ]. i'm guessing you don't think this is gonna work out for kevin mccarthy? >> it's gonna be a circus. >> why? >> well, he's kevin mccarthy. he's not nancy pelosi. he wants to be speaker, and he's got th

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so how do you hold together a party that has marjorie taylor greene, and some members who were elected in districts that joe biden carried? you know, this is -- this would test someone with the skills of nancy pelosi. >> so speaking of marjorie taylor greene, we don't usually like, you know, we don't really talk about her that much. it just is too crazy. but this is worth looking at in terms of what portends over the next two years. house republicans are promising tougher scrutiny of financial aid to ukraine when the new term begins next year. congresswoman marjorie taylor greene has announced a resolution to audit funds allocated to the war torn country and yesterday made this comparison. >> we had 5 million cross our border illegally since joe biden took office. and let's compare that to how many russians have invaded ukraine. 82,000 russians have invaded ukraine. i think the american people and the taxpayers of this country deserve to know why the biden administration and this congress is so interested in funding the protection of ukraine's border and not the protection of our borde

might have had somebody in mind there. >> and i think about this in the context of, you know, marjorie taylor greenee type of primary opposition from opponents who said i can give you the trumpism. u i can give you the conservative without all the things that make marjorie taylor greene controversial, and they could not raise the money. they could not raise the profile, they could not compete with her charisma, and to me, that's the question, when donald trump -- and we know he loves the campaigning. he loves the rallies. he loves the big crowds and the theater and the pomp and circumstance, he's going to do that well. can they compete? are they willing to throw the hay makers that are going to be required to keep up with donald trump? because just offering trump without the trumpism, i don't know if that resonates with those conservative vote, who in a lot of ways liked everything about trump kind of short of the election denialism that for many voters is where it was a bridge too far. >> we also need to be really clear. donald trump is the unquestioned front runner for the republican nomination in

moore: -- representative marjorie taylor greene express an outsider like liz cheney, if you get support from the democratic side, she could eventually become the top of that ticket. do you think that is a possibility? guest: i love marjorie taylor greene and she is a friend but i disagree with her on this. i do not think anybody is going to vote to facilitate liz cheney coming in. to be speaker of the house. that is a long shot. even the republicans who said they would be willing to work together with moderate democrats have actually watch that back. i have a great relationship with a number of my colleagues, with most of my colleagues. certainly with some of my colleagues on the other end of the spectrum from me. they are not interested in being speaker of the house -- in a democrat being speaker of the house. it is a red herring us are talking about what needs to happen in our conference. host: one of the things that will be on pressing terms is the debt ceiling. what is the best approach in your mind? guest: do not grant the debt ceiling. there is never any offset and that is -- you

it is allied by the fact that marjorie greene has grown in influence in her own party.a top fundraiser. leadership is scared out of their minds. they are offering her plum committee assignments. and she is very likely to control the agenda. reporter: you have talked to her and among your takeaways is her complete disregard for kevin mccarthy who is in position to become speaker should they gain the majority which they could. what do you thk that kind of republican majority would look like given your reporting in your book? >> the first thing that is likely to happen as rjorie greene said to me is there will be a lot of investigations. she tends to be at the center of that. she thinks she will get on a judiciary committee. the guy who is likely to be the chair of oversight, james comer has said he would welcome her. we can expect investigations relating to the pandemic, hunter biden's laptop etc. we can also expect there to be impeachment inquiries. greene has been submitting resolutions for impeachment since literally biden's first full day in office. what happens after

he will do it, marjorie taylor greene will tell him to do. this is just the beginning. it's a tragedy to the american people, whether i say as chair, or i don't, it's not the tragedy. the tragedy is, there is some serious things we need to deal with as a country, and in addition to these petty attacks on people who held trump accountable, they are threatening default on the nation's credit, threatening government shutdowns if we don't cut some security medicare, they want to investigate anthony fauci. i mean, it's absurd, but we are going to see that if republican conference saying asylum, and it looks like one, lunatics are taking over. >> you have this to say, last voters rejected extremist republicans at the ballot box, yet despite that clear repudiation, republicans are playing full steam ahead with their conspiracy theory agenda, a political sideshow for the qanon base. they are so dangerously out of touch. i want to ask about what this means for governor. there are things the house has to do to keep the government running. right? raising the debt ceiling, which yo

but i think that she has a lot to battle i mean green has been out there and marjorie taylor greene greenost vocal supporter and fighter for him. >> what would the trump and teegee or as you are showing you the video of a trump-like campaign be like? and where that leave nonalcoholic ends? >> well i think it would be a very toxic maga combination. i don't think would make any sense from an intellectual standpoint or a politically strategic standpoint. but that has never stopped donald trump. if he's in the simply to make a statement and he knows he is not going to be the nominee i could see him pairing up with somebody like kari lake or marjorie taylor greene. if he is trying to actually say to the broader republican electorate that he knows how to assemble a broad coalition, there is no way he's going to partner with either one of those two. he would look to somebody like nikki haley possibly. but i think that if he is going to get to the point where you can name a running mate, yes to get to the primary season first. and it is going to be his first task. >> well, said tim o'brien. have

and marjorie taylor greene is not his best friend. she does wield a lot of power.she's going to have say on what committees she's going to sit on. she isn't on any now. he said he's going to put her on committees. not only is he walking a fine line with donald trump, but he has to walk the line in his own caucus to get elected. >> let's talk about democrats. >> let's talk about biden. >> you worked in the white house for a long time -- >> it was only two years but seemed like a lot. >> felt long, i'm sure. >> yes. >> you know the president who was vice president then really well. and i just wonder if you think that democrats and the biden administration sort of bungled it, to say the least, on the economy, especially in the last few weeks. did they make this harder for democrats -- >> you're talking about messaging -- >> did you hear hillary rosen on the air? >> i agree. >> she said we meaning democrats, not me. >> tell us what you think. >> democrats are sort of engaging in premore tums and probably post more tums are more appropriate because we don't know what's

scott weiner of san francisco and marjorie taylor greene of georgia. their fight is over much more than just words. good evening. dan: congresswoman greene name-calling senator wiener while advocating the passage of an anti-transgender law that she's introducing to congress. ama: days after the mass shooting an lbd to q light -- nightclub in colorado. dan: tim johns is here in the newsroom. reporter: this isn't the first time they have clashed with each other on twitter. this time seems to be especially bad. despite the homophobic hate, he doesn't plan to stop fighting for what he believes in. marjorie taylor greene calling out california state senator scott wiener in a tweet sent out tuesday. green called weiner a communist groomer. weiner responding to abc7news iphone. >> i get death threats. it's pretty bad. she's an atrocious human being. reporter: the word groomer has homophobic and trans phobic undertones. in recent times, it has regained popularity among proponents of far right conspiracy theories like qanon. >> it used to have a specific meanin

the marjorie taylor greenes. lor greenes. to secure the gavel, mccarthy is making concessions to people on the far right, like marjorie taylor greene, that's why you're seeing her come out forceful in defending him, and he's clearly promised her something. it's been reported that she wants to be on oversight. you're going to see her get a plum position on a very important committee that's going to have a lot of power. i think there's legitimacy to some of these investigations, to brad's point, but i did think it was strange that house republicans came out of the gate saying we're going to investigate hunter biden when i think there are so many other issues that voters want to see them tackle like the border crisis, inflation, gas price prices, you name it. i thought that was an odd strategy. >> to be continued, we'll have a lot of committee hearings to talk about, and i promise you'll get to weigh in, karen, thank you so much for being here, and happy thanksgiving. one u.s. president has promised to fundamentally

scott weiner of san francisco and marjorie taylor greene of georgia. much more than just words. good evening. dan: congresswoman greene name-calling senator wiener while advocating the passage of an anti-transgender law that she's introducing to congress. ama: days after the mass shooting an lbd to q light -- nightclub in colorado. dan: tim johns is here in the newsroom. reporter: this isn't the first time they have clashed with each other on twitter. this time seems to be especially bad. despite the homophobic hate, he doesn't plan to stop fighting for what he believes in. marjorie taylor greene calling out california state senator scott wiener in a tweet sent out tuesday. green called weiner a communist groomer. weiner responding to abc7news iphone. >> i get death threats. it's pretty bad. she's an atrocious human being. reporter: the word groomer has homophobic and trans phobic undertones. in recent times, it has regained popularity among proponents of far right conspiracy theories like qanon. >> it used to have a specific meaning but it no longer h

this is about marjorie taylor greene because just over a year ago seven of your members of the council of the republican governance group that you're a part of voted to strip marjorie taylor greene of her committee assignments. now it seems like she's going to get them back. how do you feel about her saying that there's a lot of power and a lot of leeway and how do you feel about your leadership threatening to strip democrats off the committee for far less than calling for essentially violence against their colleagues? >> i spoke up at the conference when they wanted to strip -- initially when they wanted to strip liz cheney from the conference chair for some of her comments and then they also wanted to take the committees away. look, i didn't know mrs. greene at that time from anyone else in the community but i did say that where are the standards that we hold these people accountable? i didn't see any list of standards when i came here that said if you do these things or say these things we're going to strip you of your rights and the duties of your office. the people in your distric

both paul costar and marjorie taylor greene work stripped of their committee assignments by the democratically controlled house that actually happened before they spoke at the white nationalist conference organized by nick fuentes. marjorie taylor greene lost her committee role a year earlier for among other things trafficking in anti-semitic and anti-muslim rhetoric. but when the republicans won back control of the house this month, kevin mccarthy vowed to reassign marjorie taylor greene to house assignments. so is there room for marjorie taylor greene's brand of white supremacy in antisemitism in the white house? this is what kevin mccarthy's former feature speaker of the house had to say today. >> i don't think anybody has any place speaking with nick voyages, he has no place. i think president trump came up four times and said he did know who we. was >> he didn't say he know he was, he didn't condemn his ideology. >> i condemn's ideology, has no place in society at all. >> what about the former president for inviting him to dinner. >> he knew can usc new canyon west. was >> so he knew whos

i think he's trying to placate marjorie taylor greene by saying i'm gonna kick out schiff and eric swalwell from intelligence committee for pretty pretty partisan and very bogus reasons not related to whether or not they were trying to assassinate their colleagues, which that marjorie greene and paul gosar, we're basically doing on social media. so. it's going to be interesting because there are still a core of people in the republican party. not very many but i know that it would be difficult, i think, for. mccarthy to do that to kick them out and do the things you want to do. so there's going to be some a lot of this is just show i had to do it because of x and y and in the end he's going to be making these deals. i predict that probably and ship will stay on the intelligence committee. been exchanges could have to keep keep keep them on. action could not losing any more votes from 4 and the vote for speaker ship. and there's a distinct possibility, but it may not be who could it be? well, it's easy to say. there's no way now. but trust me if he doesn't get the votes, so will step up. som

marjorie taylor, greene really have no boundaries.aught up to me. >> repeatedly before center, we are spoke with kron 4 by phone. well, he was disappointed by congresswoman greene's words. he wasn't shocked, but he says the timing makes it even kobe and trans phobia is what led to shooting. >> people are pouring lighter fluid. marjorie taylor, greene playing later. put on already more than your he even warned about sentiments like greens on sunday. well, before she took to twitter with the hateful message, words have consequences. political rhetoric from the levels of the united states government. it has consequences that eventually someone is going to community pillars and organizations have come forward to voice their support for senator wiener. >> including san francisco city supervisor catherine shuts off it. >> and state assembly member matt haney. really grateful for sunderland or haiti. >> all of the california and and others for those who have really been incredibly kind and supportive called for a present of green to resign,

the american people do not know who these house republican moderates are, they know who marjorie taylor greenespeaker. but let's be real, marjorie taylor greene, these next two years will be the speaker of the house, and she will have mccarthy by the short hairs every single day of the week for the next two years, -- mccarthy knows that and katie, all mccarthy wants is to be become speaker. so he has to, he has to do what marjory tells him to do. >> danny, i'm a little torn here, i want republicans to chase their tail constantly and waste time doing these ridiculous investigations, because we know they're gonna do it, of how this of what any of these moderates say. at the same time, i don't want my country to become to a screeching halt with the gridlock of nothing becoming done. do you think there is a third advantage for the democrats of the republicans shades this investigatory strategy. that will backfire for them once we hit 2024 in the general election? >> i think e.d., it will depend on who the democrats put into those committees, rate, i think it's going, how democrats can play this fr

marjorie taylor greene have no boundaries.he caught up to me. >> repeatedly before center, we are spoke with kron 4 by phone. well, he was disappointed by congresswoman greene's words. he wasn't shocked, but he says the timing makes it even worse trends over. that is what led to shooting. >> people are pouring later. marjorie taylor greene playing later put on already more vocal in your he even warned about sentiments like greens on sunday. well, before she took to twitter with the hateful message, words have consequences. but political rhetoric, but the levels of the united states government. it has consequences that someone is going to community pillars and organizations have come forward to voice their support for senator wiener. >> including san francisco city supervisor catherine shuts off it and state assembly member matt haney. really grateful for senate member haiti. >> all of the california and and others for the them. really been incredibly kind and supportive. called for a present of green to resign, saying, quote.

marjorie taylor greene will have no boundaries. she caught up to me. >> repeatedly before center, we are spoke with kron 4 by phone. well, he was disappointed by congresswoman greene's words. he wasn't shocked. >> but he says the timing makes it even kobe and trans phobia is what led to shooting. >> people are lighter marjorie taylor, greene playing later on already more vocal in your he even warned about sentiments like greens on sunday. well, before she took to twitter with the hateful message, words have consequences. political rhetoric, but the levels of the united states government. it has consequences that someone is going to community pillars and organizations have come forward to voice their support for senator wiener. >> including san francisco city supervisor catherine shuts off it and state assembly member matt haney. really grateful for sunderland or haiti. >> all the california and others are the 2 really been incredibly coin and support of soft called for a present of green to resign, saying, quote. >> hate speech has

greene: i would like to flues our freshman are corey from florida. >> i wanted to add to what marjorie taylor greene has said. we are stewards of the american taxpayer money. and looking for transparency how the money is going to be spent. led to the $31 trillion. we need to be looking at not as being protection nist and protecting our americans at home. we should not go around thinking we are the police. there is a nuclear escalation and missiles are being threatened and think about the alignment. what that means for us is the action is of evil. the russians have continued to assemble on the board i.r.s. and chairman xi has delayed. if he has that type of capability, why aren't we talking about de-escalation and to actually stop, not just america's involvement but continue escalation. we knee what chairman xi. this is warfare that has been launched against the west and we need to think about this. and the border, taking africa and reconcreting, creating the supply chain. this is their ultimate goal and the way for us to defeat that is to invest here at home, protect our sorn borders a

but, molly, does this make marjorie taylor greene the defacto speaker? >> well, she certainly has a group of very vocal republicans in the house. she knows how to wield that power. she was out sort of change for kevin mccarthy before the first vote. i do think she's going to have a lot of power. and the few sane republicans in the house who are left, and there are not many of them, are going to find themselves in a real pickle. will they go along with this kind of these -- you know, the hunter biden's laptop investigations or will they decide that they want to defect to democrats. and you could see -- it's not impossible, right? just because the base is hostage to this, you know, maga caucus doesn't mean the rest of the party is. >> very true. and david was alluding to that as well. great discussion. we'll do it again sometime. really appreciate it. >>> and former president trump may soon be back on twitter, owner of twitter, elon musk hosting a poll on his feed whether to rein state the former president's account. this comes after he unbanned several co

is this a place that marjorie taylor greene could be? is this a place they stick her? if it is not her, who would it be and what would be the applications? just put her on the committee. is that a plessis sticker -- place you stick her? bethany: you would be more likely to give her that platform. but i don't think that is the take away from last night. >> they cannot put her on armed services. education has traditionally been a place where parties but there hacks -- their hacks. >> she has a lot of experience and institutional knowledge. there is a real question of, given that there are a lot of targets they would want to do oversight on, if it is not somebody who is a seasoned committee chair, it would be interesting to see how that plays out. bethany: staffing matters as well. she has a good, stable, long-term staff. that is not nothing. you have to know how to work that process. or have somebody who keeps their team there. >> i have heard and i think this is true that marjorie taylor greene hired the former chief of staff for tom delay. you don't take that job just

>> i'm marjorie taylor greene and i approve this message. , hillary clinton is part of the deep state baby-eating cabal. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: remember sarah palin? speaking of marjorie taylor greene, male fertility is on the decline. according to a new study, researchers found worldwide sperm counts fell by more than 51% since 1973. which is why we need herschel walker in the senate more than ever before. [ laughter ] down in georgia, herschel is gearing up for his run-off with raphael warnock, and he's doing it by tackling the issues voters believe matter most. >> overnight, i was watching this movie, watching this movie called "fright night," freak night, some kind of night, it was about vampires. i don't know if you knew vampires are cool people. let me tell you something i found out. a werewolf can kill a vampire, do you know that? >> jimmy: senator, your time is expired. [ laughter ] he did not know that. did you know that? >> guillermo: no, i didn't. >> jimmy: we learned something, thanks, her develop. ed we've got a great

trying to get people like marjorie taylor greene. jokes. >> clearly. >> their drama queens. the nominees for best actors and a melodrama are jim thorpe, marjorie taylor greene, and who is the other from florida? boebert. >> don't get me started. >> thank you. >> but drama queens. they love to create drama. the hunter biden laptop thing is coming up again. why? you know what i mean? they've got no plan, none that i've heard of. >> there is no plan. so they have to play drama. >> its infrastructure day. now they're gonna try to impeach biden. >> but here's the problem. and it's not just republicans. it's also when you have years now, we have years of investigations. we have people on both sides that they were partisan in nature in that they were wrong. now you get a party that says, okay, we're gonna do the same thing to you because you did to us. and now you get in this tit-for-tat, and it's not what the american people want. and it's going to be -- >> okay, but investigating donald trump and all that he did is totally different from

greene, and that's who she is, but her supporters got the message. she said nancy pelosi was guilty of treason and reminded her supporters that the penalty for treason is death. marjorie a kook but potentially one with a lot of power soon. >> an attempt to dismiss them, sitting members of congress, a lot who are election deniers and will promulgate conspiracy theories and say cruel things, which matters in our politics, because it didn't used to be that way. it wasn't that way when steve scalese was shot. it was a completely different environment and atmosphere where democrats and republicans immediately, without any planning, they immediately came together in one voice and spoke out against it, spoke out against political violence and prayed together. so i guess my question to you is, do you see this violence escalating? and what are the options in terms of tamping it down? >> there needs to be a strong federal law enforcement response. we haven't seen the leaders of january 6th charged yet, and maybe that's forthcoming. and i think you may see more violence when, and i think it is coming, donald trump is charged over the documents from mar-a-lago. you know, this all

marjorie taylor greene.d, we've been studying hearns talking to our class. >> sure, lawrence, the temptation when you see someone like greene is but this is what has his ballot yearning for attention, and it's really the sum total she succeeded in the attention economy of the internet world. she's a fundraising dynamo, the fact that the maga base views or as kind of approximate lawyer, now that trump has left washington, means that kevin cardi, who also wants to be see here of the house has to give deference to her. and that takes the for not just of one committee assignments. if also in the policy agenda, i don't know if mccarthy would've had the stomach for before, but now i think he has no choice but to enter into, because the maga basis can be so -- >> draper's new book is weapons of mass delusion, when the republican party lost his mind. whenever i hold a great book like this, always flip to the acknowledgements to see if the magic name is there, and it is, scott moyer's, as the editor of this book, who

about cutting deals, adam kinzinger may use the language he uses but it is true you have marjorie taylor greenee you, the most already saying that she wants to have hearings on nancy pelosi's treatment of the people who stormed the capitol on january 6th. >> marjorie taylor greene has made it clear that she expects to be sent to the oversight committee, particularly if kevin mccarthy becomes speaker. i think that is the question. yes, good the conservative wing blowup the speakership nomination process. but, if they come along and kevin mccarthy is able to become speaker, that raises a lot of questions about what assurances, what deals, what compromises he has reached and what will be the effect of that when it comes to actually governin g this new u.s. house. >> so, what is the take? you covered the joe biden white house, which has to do with this whole new world. they might say kevin mccarthy has a time majority, that might hurt more than it helps from the white house perspective and leaves him no room to negotiate things. they will hire more lawyers but what about policy priorities? they nee

so he needs to keep marjorie taylor greene, for example, on board. se she wants to investigate a bunch of conspiracy theories related to joe biden and pursue a bunch of ludicrous impeachments. >> stuart, the thing is there's no accountability from the republican base, right? will there be any punishment or any consequences for telling your base that this is an election about inflation and crime and then doing literally nothing on those two subjects and just doing weird investigations? >> you know, joy, the thing about the republican party that sometimes is hard for some of us who worked in the party to grasp is the republican party is what it wants to be. it is not a governing party anymore. it is a party that is about one thing, and that is the acquisition of power. that's how cartels are, how narco cartels are. nobody asks a narco cartel what is your real purpose here. and they don't care about these issues. what's interesting is to see that voters saw that they didn't care about it. what was the republican plan to fight inflation? what was the repu

you sort of expect it from marjorie taylor greene and kari lake.s the kind of equivocation by youngkin by sununu but let's try to win an election. that's hard story process because these are kind of the grown-ups and the more centrist leaders of the republican party and it is on them as it is on mitch mcconnell to say there has to be an absolute line on some of these issue. >> has to be shoved back to the fringe where it used to be and then hopefully off the edge but pushed back to the fringe which is not what it is at the moment. >>> up next president biden on his way to florida. two big fund-raisers will help but it's a reminder the president is not invited to campaign in most of the big battleground states. some are of intensity, others, joy. all are ofof - ahhhh. listerine. feel the whoaoa! with gold bond... you can age on your own terms. new retinol overnight means the smoothing benefits of retinol are now for your whole bod plus, fast-working crepe rrector diminishes wriled skin in just two days. gold bond. champion your skin. i brought in en

. >> well, i suspect he will do whatever marjorie taylor greene wants him to do. he is a very weak leader of his conference, meaning he will adhere to the wishes of the lowest common denominator, and if that wants to remove people from committees, that's what they'll do. it's going to be chaos with the republican leadership and, sadly, the kind of crazy caucus has grown among the republicans. many republicans who won primaries in deeply red districts are coming to congress like the marjorie taylor greene and paul -- >> too much in one direction, he will have to worry about the other direction. one of the other things that republicans are saying they're going to launch all matter of investigations, hunter biden, anthony fauci, the border, et cetera, et cetera, et ceteraly you critical of the trump white house and donald trump himself for defying congressional subpoenas, not cooperating with congressional oversight. what's your advice to the biden administration? should they comply and cooperate with oversight from this congress? >> they should cooperate with approp

where mccarthy, in february called out marjorie greene calling it unacceptable, to place in the party're bringing up that event because that is supposed to be fuentes, in his mind, creating an alternative to cpat and has extremists there and marjorie taylor greene spoke there. after a chance of, yeah putin, or whatever. the real issue is, what exactly does this mean, if anything, based on what we've seen in the last couple of months, for the power of someone like marjorie taylor greene? seen kevin mccarthy talking the last couple of days, people he wants to elevate, people he wants to support and here's a perfect example why people had very serious questions about supporting this particular person, and now the rubber meets the road what it means to be a leader. >> exactly right. if you look at kevin mccarthy, the two titles, words in his title are, you know, leader and speaker. he's not leading. and he's not speaking out, because he's constrained by the dynamics of the caucus he's desperately trying to lead or c corral is probably a better term. but if you can't condemn this you actua

. >> you've talked about the fact that marjorie taylor greene will be on oversight.manage fire brands like her being on your committee? >> well, you know, historically the committee has been a haven for a lot of the fire brands in congress. i mean, everybody is supposed to serve on committees. and if you look at the democrats on the committee, you have four of the five squad, ocasio-cortez, tlaib, cory bush, pressley, they're on the oversight committee, jamie raskins, i would consider a fire brand, led two investigations of the former president is on the oversight committee, we have a lot of the freedom caucus. the steering committee puts marjorie taylor greene on the committee, she will be on the committee. jim jordan is on the committee. a big percentage of the -- andy biggs who challenged mccarthy is on the oversight committee. so you're going to have some of the most visible people in both parties, but again, they still make up a minority of the oversight committee. if you look at the last -- >> are you worried it's going to undermine credibility that you're tryi

who is this person, marjorie taylor greene? you have been studying, her talking to her stuff. >> sure. i mean, lawrence, the temptation when you see someone like green is to say that, this is someone to have this boundless earning for attention. and, that is really the subs told of all that she. is there is truth to that. she certainly yearns her attention. but, she's managed to succeed in the attention of the political internet world. as a result of that, she has a great deal of power. she is a fund raising dynamo. the fact that the maga base is an approximate warrior, now that trump's left washington means that kevin mccarthy, who also wants to be speaker of the house has to give deference to her. and we'll take the form, not just on committee assignments, which she said she had expected to get it, but also the policy of. it i don't know that mccarthy would have the stomach to have this debate before or to push from the end of ukraine fighting. but, now, i think that he's really gotten no choice but to interact with. because

>> marjorie greene, if she gets elected is going to have committees to serve on. >> on oversight?es to serve on just like every other member and every other member goes through a steering committee looking at the best places to serve. members request different committees. as we go through, we'll look. >> but you have no red lines in terms of which assignment? >> no, she can look at any committee she wants just like every other member. >> the attack on paul pelosi, we've seen some in the party that have mocked the attack or spread conspiracy theories about it. what do you say to those republicans? >> i think what happened to paul pelosi is wrong and i think people should not get into this rhetoric about it or anywhere else. >> on the speakership, how confident are you that you have the votes? >> we've got an election tuesday, two days away. i know all the pollsters said last time we would lose 15 seats and we beet 13 democrats. we're going to work and run hard. if we win the majority, i'll run for speaker. >> but do you think you will have the votes for speaker? >> i believe i'll s

>> guest: i love marjorie taylor greene and she's a friend but i but i disagree with her wholeheartedly on this. i don't think anybody's going to vote to facilitate liz cheney coming in to be the speaker of the house. that is such a long shot, even the republican or to the said they would be willing to work together with a moderate democrat to become speaker if kevin mccarthy is not speaker have actually walked that back. i actually have a great relationship with a number of my colleagues. i think i've got a pretty good relationship with most of my colleagues but certainly with some of my colleagues that we would say on the other end of the spectrum from me. they are not interested in a democrat to be speaker of the house and i think that's kind of a fear tactic, instead of, it's a red herring instead of talk about what really needs to happen in our conference. >> host: assuming republicans to take power one of the things that will be on pressing terms i think the debt ceiling. what's the best approach in your mind? >> guest: is to not grant the debt ceiling. there's never any offsets i

-- and there are republicans who are gonna continue to fund the war so unfortunately for marjorie taylor greeneut it and of being a net positive for you for democrats to have someone like marjorie taylor greene in power? there were all sorts of republicans, right? fancy wealthy, new york city republicans. you, know the cc wheat republicans out there who love to pretend that the marjorie taylor greene's don't exist. if she has serious power in this party, they can't pretend anymore. >> i think electorally, it is probably in our advantage. but you know why i don't like, it because it is not good for this country. it is gonna further divide this country. is this further gonna turn people off from politics. it is not gonna solve the issues of immigration, holding our manufacturing basis. spent two years of not doing things to build america so, find maybe it is gonna help and sure joe biden's election. but we don't come to congress for that. we want to do things, and that is what is so frustrating. >> how about solving the issues over at the twitter. you are our silicon valley congressman, twitter a

marjorie taylor greene have no boundaries. she caught up to me. >> repeatedly before center, we are spoke with kron 4 by phone. well, he was disappointed by congresswoman greene's words. he wasn't shocked, but he says the timing makes it even kobe and trans phobia is what led to shooting. >> people are lighter marjorie taylor, greene playing later. put on already more vocal in your he even warned about sentiments like greens on sunday. well, before she took to twitter with the hateful message, words have consequences. but political rhetoric, but the levels of the united states government. it has consequences that someone is going to community pillars and organizations have come forward to voice their support for senator wiener. >> including san francisco city supervisor catherine shuts off it and state assembly member matt haney. really grateful to us. amber, haiti. >> all of the california and others for the them. really been incredibly kind and supportive. called for a present of green to resign, saying, quote. >> hate speec