some republicans like marjorie taylor greene has said they are being treated poorly. you were there. >> that's a complete lie. there were about maybe 15 republicans on that visit. i was there with one other democrat, and what we saw first, we met about 20 of them. they were in a cell where they were together, just them. they were walking freely in a large room that connected their cells. they had tablets and communicate with family and friends. that had entertainment. they were treated incredibly fairly, and as someone who is been to other jails and prisons, quite frankly, they are being treated better than most inmates across the country. marjorie taylor greene was completely lying about the conditions of how they are being held. many of them tried to shake my hand. i refused. what was sick and disgusting besides the fact that marjorie taylor greene and lauren boebert and others were treating them like heroes as they were chanting, let's go brandon. they were singing songs i had written for the president. to treat these people that try to overthrow the government in

. >> we played this from marjorie taylor graham last hour. she has come full circle on this. she is back where she was in the beginning. you put your party and president first and she has been one of those who has argued against and with mike johnson but everybody has to get on board to fulfill trump's promises to the american people. how much pressure or help does she give the situation in terms of those undecideds? how big is her voice? >> it is pretty big in the caulk of the who have expressed concerns about speaker johnson, especially how he ran the continuing resolution and there was a lot of angst about that, especially after people dug into what was in the bill going forward. that was a negative moment and made people angry. we need to support speaker johnson. it is important, other voices are saying that. there is no plan b right now. for the folks who are undecided or that he is a definitive no, you don't know how to get to something if there is not another alternative and right now mike johnson is the only person who can get close to the numbers needed and they thin

marjorie taylor greene has been working the phones. we can't confirm whether that is to president-elect trump or not. she obviously had that phone connection before in various times. where do you think the president-elect is watching this, knowing he was working the phones earlier, karl, and he sees -- if you are going to say this is the republic exercising its right to this process, but it is also showing a bit of dysfunction on republicans' side. >> well, i suspect he is a little bit irritated because he made clear his choice, and again, what reason has been articulated by any of these people, massie, norman, or self, as to why johnson shouldn't be speaker? i suspect he is a little irritated right now. massie is impervious to that kind of pressure. he has long marched to the beat of a different drummer, libertarian then republican, but other members are likely to have some heat back home. part of this is cajoling. part of this is encouraging. i hope it is not dealmaking because if this is what do i got to do in order to get your vote

marjorie taylor greene. professor matthew greene is on set with us. professor greene, what do you see in that picture? >> that's a great shot of two members of the house republican conference who have a tradition of causing trouble and pushing back against party leadership from time to time. one of them did vote for mike johnson for speaker, the other did not. >> is tom massey -- is there any lobbying that can be done in your view the tomas eat to get him? >> this is something that's going on on the floor. i cannot speak for massey. he has a tradition of being a lone gun, doing his own thing. he said early and often he would not vote for johnson, which certainly suggests he is not open to persuasion. >> the fact this is happening after the last speaker election, kevin mccarthy, 15 rounds or so before he got elected. >> i can't think of a time in the house of representatives were we had two consecutive congresses where the opening day or the first opportunity to vote for speaker no one wins the first ballot. maybe the first time in the history of the h

what marjorie taylor greene was doing was completely lying about the conditions.of course refused. what was sick and disgusting, besides the fact that greene and boebert and others were treating them as heroes, they were chanting let go brandon, singing songs they had written for the president. to treat people who tried to overthrow the government this way is shameful on the behalf of the republicans and the fact they could receive pardons should concern every american. >> donald trump is not going to lose his base, the proud boys. could he risk turning off people who supported him and don't support what happened, but voted for donald trump because of the economy or immigration? >> i really hope so. i just don't see how any american could support the pardon of people that attacked police officers, that led to the death of a handful of police officers who served our country, and injured over 100 police officers in various serious ways. people that attacked law enforcement. this idea that donald trump blanket pardons these folks should disturb everyone. but we have

massey, marjorie taylor greene, matthew green onset with us. professor greene, what do you see in that picture? guest: it's a great shot of two members of the conference who have a reputation of causing trouble. one of them did vote for mike johnson for speaker but the other did not. host: is there any thing that can be done to get tom massey? guest: this is something going on on the floor and i cannot speak for him but he has a tradition of being a lone gunman and he has said he would not vote for johnson, which certainly suggests he's not open to persuasion, but who knows? host: the fact that this is happening after the last speaker election, kevin mccarthy, 15 rounds or so before he got elected. think of a were we had two consecutive congresses where the opening day or the first opportunity to vote for speaker no one wins the first ballot. maybe the first time in the history of the house this has happened. that speaks to the nature of congressional politics these days. we have strong partisanship, which we always have for the speaker races.

talking with marjorie taylor greene.according to a tweet that came out, marjorie taylor greene when she was on her phone, i don't know if you were watching, she was on her phone and she was talking with the president elect's chief of staff, according to several news reports. at one point we saw two dissenters walk off with speaker johnson. according to several news sources, president trump called and talked to both of those members who then came down and changed their vote. in a historical sense, how would you rate today? [crosstalk] guest: it's significant. it's very unusual in the history of the house to have an election where no one is elected speaker or a delayed process as we saw with negotiations happening. we ended up having johnson elected on the first round, which is the norm for contemporary congressional history but we had seven republicans initially refused to vote, three voted for someone else. it took longer than usual, also negotiations were happening as well. i'm going to second the fact that i think the

congresswoman marjorie taylor, greene says she's been urging him to pardon everybody involved. other republicans favor a case-by-case approach. democrats argue the pardons could have dire consequences for the rule of law. there are more details on the explosion outside the trump international hotel in las vegas. that happened new year's day involving 37 year-old green beret matthew livelsberger. authorities say there were warning signs before the attack that injured 7 people livelsberger killed himself shortly before detonating explosives a rented tesla cybertruck. he did leave behind a series of notes on his phone, including one saying, quote, this was not a terrorist attack. it was a wake-up call. his message is also called for americans to wake up to weak leadership. he mentioned the president elect trump and tesla ceo elon musk. his family says he had been struggling with post traumatic stress following several combat deployments. the heaviest snowfall in a decade could be coming to some parts of the country. blizzard conditions were reported across much of kansas and north

i want to see marjorie taylor greene become speaker. she would be excellent and she is not afraid to speak and she isak representing actual policy tremont . >> host: sue, she said she's going to support speaker mike johnson today. do you think she should do that? >> caller: no, i don't. i think she is, i think that's a leveraging issue. i thinksu that if your body is strongly represented with a dual citizens, that is a big problem because we're no longer representing the u.s. pirg where representing outside interests, of the countries, big money, bankers, , people that have leverage. this is the l problem. >> host: sue in grand rapids, michigan, independent caller. we have less than two hours away from that speaker vote. pedro has more. >> host: will they or won't they came all morning. there's been some congressionalo media reporting on maybe where people are. this iss michael schnell of the hill reporting today that when it comes to rich mccormack of georgia telling her quote looks like they will support johnson, looks like when he as

on behalf of the house caucus and the oversight committee to serve as a witness to a visit by marjorie taylorene and some other republicans to go visit the insurrectionists here in d.c. in the jail and so i was there to observe, and what i saw made me sick to my stomach. the absolute worst day i've had since i've been in congress was witnessing marjorie taylor greene approaching these criminals, these violent insurrectionists and high fiving them, giving them hugs, encouraging them. there was about 20 of them gathered in a room that we visited. they came up to us. they were talking freely, asked to shake my hand. i refused, but to see the reaction of these republicans treating them like heroes was shameful and disgusting. these are people that attacked our capitol, and by the way, about 17 of that group, 17 of the 20 had actually attacked police officers and are being held in the jail here in d.c. for attacking violently police officers that protect our capitol and our government, and so to have folks that marjorie taylor greene call them hostages and same as donald trump and treat them as he

there's been a subcommittee that's been set and like definitely its guaranteed for success because marjorie taylor is the the chair of the subcommittee. but i'm interested in how you see that subcommittee work in particular as it relates to the appropriators, for example, their role in the constitutional responsibility to funds. but talk about the the policies are being proposed and how you the house in particular interacting with respect to those you know it's hard to take any subcommittee seriously that it's going to be led by marjorie taylor greene and so that yeah, correct. who doesn't have a lot of fans on other side of the aisle. so i found that interesting that she's going to be the head of this effort now we can all work together to try to make sure that our federal government is efficient effective and equitable and can't be efficient. it needs to certainly effective, but also has to be equitable at the same time and those will be i think the principles that we will approach this anchored in to try to, you know, bring about the best possible result. now what's interesting is we, of course

then he reposted another video from congresswoman marjorie taylor greene of georgia saying that no matter what reservations some more conservative members of the house, no matter what reservations they may have in order to get donald trump's agenda over the finish line in the next couple of weeks and months. they need to vote for mike johnson. so again, the president elect here in palm beach county, we're awaiting any comment from him with these unfolding developments. kate. all right, gabe, appreciate that. just for our viewers, we are waiting for the gavel officially to be hit, where we'll know that this vote is final and official. but as of right now, the news is that the house appears to fail in reelecting speaker mike johnson to that position. i want to go back to garrett hake. garrett, i know you're probably actively trying to talk to members as well, but do we have any further guidance on whether they might start voting again anytime soon? no, nothing official, kate, but to be clear, the easiest option for the house is to go right into a next round of voting. that's sort of the way

we'll listen to what marjorie taylor greene posted on x.ou've seen me disagree with mike johnson and fight with him at times. you know what something else, here is what i recognize, for the past four years ail of you and myself included have put blood, sweat and tears into electing president trump and when you want to talk about blood, president trump himself actually was the one that shed blood after an assassin shot him in the face. here is what i know. all of you are sick and tired and fed up out of the drama and all of the garbage that comes out of washington d.c. and after two terrorist attack terrorist attacks where innocent people were killed and four years of horrific government policies and 36 trillion dollars in debt all of you at home and myself included are ready for the drama to end. here is what i'm asking my colleagues to do. let's put aside our pride, let's put aside our egos and let's put aside the infighting. it's time to come together as republicans and it's time to do what ever it takes to make sure that we deliver the m

reporter: republicans can vote on this marjorie taylor green -- the funding of changing of maps, do nott any democratic support there. >> house democrats believe that we're not sent to washington to invade greenland, rename the gulf of mexico, or seize the panama canal by force, we were sent to washington to lower the high coast of living in the united states of america. reporter: president-elect trump will talk about all of this with the republicans whose votes he will need starts in 12 days, on capitol hill, within the next two hours, larry. larry: by the way, peter, you know, in world war ii, united states occupied greenland, to prevent the nazis from occupying greenland. just saying. peter doocy, west palm beach. reporter: he said they have to do it to counter china and russian influence, at min mminimum will start a conversation with democrats, look do you have a better idea protect american interest from china and russia? let's hear it. larry: 100% right, thank you, peter doocy. trump mades one big beautiful coalition to pass his one big beautiful bill. that is the subject of the

are going to have to vote down johnson and they are going to have to find out really fast that marjorie taylorreene is the most erudite woman in congress. host: all right, michael. listen to what artery taylor green had to say when she posted this on x. [video clip] >> you have seeming disagreed with johnson and fight against him. you know something else? for the past four years, all of you and myself included, have put blood, sweat, and tears into electing president trump. you want to talk about blood, president trump himself actually was the one that shed blood after an assassin shot him in the face. here's what i know. all of you are sick and tired and fed up with all of the garbage that comes out of washington, d.c.. and after two terrorist attacks on our nation, where innocent people were killed, and after four years of unbelievably horrific government policy, and now that we are $36 trillion in debt, all of you at home and myself included are ready for the drama to end. here is what i'm asking my colleagues to do. let's put aside our pride. let's put aside our egos. and let's put aside t

instead we saw marjorie taylor greene on the phone on the chamber floor trying to help negotiate andd the word and get the trump message out. the members who spoke with trump said it was conversations with him that made them reverse course. >> we had a lively conversation. i was very honest with the president, which i think everyone ought to be, that we needed a stronger negotiating position. i think we need a very strong republican conference. i wanted some changes. >> those members told us that they left with the understanding that speaker johnson would put more hard right members on negotiations. he said there was not any direct promise. this is the easy part to some degree. at the same time, democrats told me they were not surprised that johnson was in a pickle. they were surprised that he won on the first vote but not surprised that things started on a roller coaster. >> what i say to my colleagues across the aisle is we are ready to work with them. where we can. >> this is the easy part. a couple of republican members expected to join the trump administration. >> the easier par

here was marjorie taylor greene, a trump ally, on monday. watch. >> it's absurd.ay. >> and that of course, something÷÷that, you know, clearly there are a lot of voters out there who didn't think that what happened on january 6th was disqualifying enough not to vote for donald trump. >> that's the extraordinary thing. you talk to democrats and ones i spoke to yesterday are really concerned about the idea of whitewashing this event into basically to oblivion that you look at it as marjorie tame ylor greene there, and it was a beautiful day, according to who you talk to, but at the same time, voters know at they voted for. this is not out of the bloodstream and some surprise, and certainly trump has made part of his argument on the campaign trail, even if it ÷÷wasn't the dominating message. he did not make any sort of ÷÷efforts to hide the fact that he seems to want to pardon some number of these january 6th defendants. who they are is that the proud boys and those that literally attacked police officers. is it a different cohort, that he hasn't fully outlined and ex

slowly over time, matt gaetz, marjorie taylor greene, others gave them a little bit more credibilityfeel like they're truly stepping into power. i mean, i went to the home where they had a poster of this logo of ashli babbitt being killed as a red drop of blood on her neck. it's an image i saw passed around on the proud boys telegram the night of jan 6. and now it's like mainstream. >> can you explain this house to me more? what do they use it like for a gathering purpose? what is this? >> it's kind of like a home base for people who are coming and going for court hearings families come there and people who have just gotten out of jail and there's not much. they have to put their lives back together. one of the interesting things about it is that it has turn md of these very conservative people into people who really want prison reform. i also feel they'll be able to pressure the trump administration to enact that. >> a ton of organizations set up just to support the j sixers and their families. i was down at the jail a few weeks ago and somebody called in from one of these organizat

>> well, michael, it is good to see you, too, and we have an indication of marjorie taylor greene telling reporter matt lazlo saying that she felt that january 6th should be a national day of celebration, and when i was listening to harry, and the physical assault of officers and having someone say it should be a celebration, then there are two ds, delusional and deranged. so when you are looking at the start of it, you will see the chaos of yesterday, and first ballot of mike johnson and you know it wasn't going to be that easy, and there had to be a lot of arm twisting to vote for him, and you will see chaos, because how do you run for government that so many people who make policy believe in fantasies and if you have the president-elect on down believe in a huge congress representatives believe in stop the steal, and other disinformation and how do you trust anybody to make policy and law as you were saying about the january 6th plaque, harry, and some of the resolutions in congress for law enforcement, and how do you respect people who are talking about back to blue and legislation wh

. -- the way that marjorie taylor greene with fund raise off of drama, on the hill, almost nothing to do with legislation those checks are coming in from country not just her district, the same you can say about you know dozens of other members, who really focus on the media opportunities over the legislative process. andhe something that is visually so wild to see is after a big vote everyone streaming down the steps outside of the house, usually running to their cars, or catch their flight but now you see a smattering at top of stairs taking selfies videos and explain why they voted no or why we're glad we voted yes on this and that ability through social media to connect with anyone that shares your world view in the world. i think that is interesting. i had great conversations with institutionalists to made the choice to leave and will not join us for 119, those intensives. how it so possible to find someone across theaisle who an issue and seeks same type of solutions you do, but now vulnerable that can be if you are in a swing district or if you are in a safe g.o.p. district. co

inevitably to some degree to the person michael marjorie taylor green and build their own models and o create their own oceans of money coming in where they are create their own space if they wanted to between themselves and leadership. >> are running low on time for it let me take a few questions from the audience consecutively then will try to get some lightning round answers and conclude. folks in the audience. one in the sweater right here. >> folks in the audience. one in the sweater right here. and watching what happened with the shootdown of the reconciliation bill we saw some interesting dynamics you did get elon musk involved. he apparently had his people is useai techniques to go through t bill for 1500 pages very, very quickly. take out issues and then revert to social media to dispute those issues and create the whole dynamic. so i am really wondering. this leads me, the forecast for reverting was actually an older concept of the imperial presidency will see if trump as we use the term fractured and manipulative bowl by those who have mastered the temporal dynamics of soc

there are also photos from the floor of georgia represented marjorie taylor greene on the phone with incoming chief of staff susie wiles. mbers later approved a package of rules that will govern the house and committees for the next two years. the resolution includes an increase in the threold for requesting the removal othe speaker from one to nine republican members,liminating the office of diversity and inclusion, and allowing committees to permit electronic voti. more live coverage of the new 119th congress on members return on c-span. now we take you back to the beginning of today's activities in the u.s. house. >> for the meeting of the 119th congress of the united states, the house will come to order. [gavel pounds] the prayer will be offered by chaplain. >> would you pray with me? gather us together sovereign got from the north and south, from the east and west, from the right in your mercy, consecrate the work you have called us to do in this 119th congress. as we convened to establish and uphold the laws of this nation may we devote our hearts to you and stretch out our han

. >> yeah, despite the fact that marjorie taylor greene actually introduced a bill on the house flooroday to rename the gulf of mexico to the gulf of america. i do think as trump is talking about expanding america's power he's doing something very concerted at the same time. he began this press conference talking about a $20 billion foreign investment to build american data centers from an -- courtesy of an emeraty billionaire. donald trump has put a for sale on this country as he talks about buying other ones. i wonder how concerned you are about his championing of foreign investment here with no strings attached and unwinding of pesky relations that may get in the way of foreign investment here in the u.s.? >> yeah, you know, we have pretty well-established mechanisms to make sure that the foreign investment here in the united states is not a national security threat. there's a little esoteric organization called the committee for foreign investment in the united states, and their job is to make sure this sort of investment doesn't put at risk our national security. now, by the way,

the way marjorie taylor greene can fund raise off of drama on the help that has almost nothing to do with legislation for those checks are, coming in from arod the country. they are not just coming in from her district who focus on the media something that is visually so wild to see is after a big vote everyone is streaming down the steps outside of the house. usually running into their cars, the run to catch their flight or whatever a smattering at the top of the stairs are taking selfie videos are why we are so glad we voted yes on this. that ability not just with constituents but anyone i think is interesting. you had great conversations with patrick mchenry other institutionalists that made the choice to leave. that will not be joining us it's so hard to find someone to find an issue how vulnerable that could be if you are in a swing district. even the state gop district collaborating on something like speeding up passport renewal time. something like that that so not a partisan issue. if you have anyone in your district into travel internationally, that would be a benefit to the

the screen shot of marjorie taylor greene's cell phone. she was making calls to members of congress to get mike johnson across the finish line and stands out to me donald trump junior said i think we're more ready this time than if we would have had a second term consecutively. what president trump has done over four years. he has had time to sit back about his personnel and be ready to go. >> bill: the whole comment about sand in the gears is very true for january, february, march of 2017 and later you were on his team as well. by the way, susie wiles, i don't think she has done an interview during this entire campaign. this was the first one. one of the comments she said is if she disagrees with trump she tells him one-on-one. that way she can make sure there are no leaks. or maybe there could be a leak from one individual. >> that's very important. if we remember 2017, the trump administration was riddled with leaks. you couldn't go into an oval office meeting without part of it being on the front page of the "washington post" and "new

vance reposted the claim and soon other republican lawmakers like congresswoman marjorie taylor greenext. that initial fox report turned out to be very wrong. shortly after publishing the original report one of fox senior national correspondents walked back the claim saying that the truck actually crossed the border back in november and that the person who drove the truck across the border was not the shooter. that is a pretty key piece of information. soon after fox posted the correction the fbi put out a statement that the attack was a u.s. citizen from texas. and a veteran of the u.s. army. and yet, those crucial new facts did not change the focus of a number of republicans or right wing media. even after the clarification from fox, even after federal law enforcement told the country the attacker was an american citizen. they continued to link the new year's day attack to the risk of migrants crossing the border. >> the congressional republicans, we here in the house and the senate reportedly asked the dhs under biden administration, the concern about terrorism and the wide open bor

there was a briefing yesterday, homeland security briefing with senators and congressmen and marjorie taylor greene walks out and says they have no idea this guy was a problem. does that surprise you at all that the fbi didn't have any idea who this person was or what his activities were. >> it did surprise me. i'm generalizing here, somebody like this attacker, i'm not going to say his name, has just displays red flags, their behavior changes, they start to enunciate what they're going to do or some of their intentions. his half brother said he became deeply, deeply disturbed and was in sort of a spiral in his life and he became more and more sort of spouting the koran which is not in itself inparentsly bad bees -- inherently bad but he was displaying behaviors that might harm somebody. that was one of those if you see saying, say something. lone wolves are difficult to detect. there's a broader issue. that is the fbi has taken their eye off the international terrorism ball. in the world of or in the field of counter terrorism, international terrorism by far and away the greatest threat esp

marjorie taylor greene drafted legislation to make this happen, trump pledge to acquire greenland thed vacated at the 51st state, some of this was a joke in terms of candida but what are your thoughts in terms of what president trump said yesterday on the gulf of america and panama and greenland. >> let me start with greenland geographically there is a strategic component that most americans probably have not got a grasp of. it is an important region for us as a country and it's important for global security and the russians in the chinese are increasing the activities in the region of the world. greenland does have strategic importance anything president trump will ultimately want to get to some type of agreement with them where we have a relationship that is mutually beneficial than the current one. obviously when you get to the pit of my canal we built and paid for it and we should've never give it away we did and when you look at the transit that goes through their it is obviously a more important geographical area again for commerce in the global trade he's right about looking at

and marjorie taylor greene, two people who do nothing for the american people and who love posing with guns. the new year we've entered already has violence around us everywhere. as you probably saw on all of your feeds, a tesla cyber truck exploded and burst into flames wednesday morning just outside the entrance of trump international hotel in las vegas, producing this dramatic scene that seemed like a fitting symbol for our era. instead, a decorated u.s. army soldier believed to be the person killed in the explosion suffered what appeared to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound before the truck went up in flames. authorities also say they have found no definitive link between the new orleans attack on new year's day and the vegas tesla cyber truck explosion. we also learned this week about an unsettling story out of virginia, where a man was arrested with what federal prosecutors described in court papers on monday as the largest cache of finished explosive devices ever found in the fbi's history. investigators discovered more than 150 devices, mostly pipe bombs, on a property outside

one name is congresswoman marjorie taylor greene. however, she now is in a manner explaining why all of you have to get behind president trump. >> you all have seen me disagree with mike johnson at times but you want to know something else? here is what i recognize. for the past four years, all of you and myself included have put blood, sweat and tears into electing president trump. here is what i'm asking my colleagues to do. let's put aside our pride, let's put aside our egos and put aside the infighting. it is time to come together as republicans. i will be voting for mike johnson. we'll elect a speaker and swear in as members of congress and then on monday, we are going to certify the most historic election in our nation's history. >> harris: did you ever think you would see it? she even said you've seen her disagree with mike johnson. >> she is 100% correct and i think she recognizes, as do most of my colleagues, the seriousness and severity of this. the american people spoke and expect us to do our jobs. they don't want to see

of course as vice president vance reposted the claim and soon other republican lawmakers like marjorie taylorted pushing this unconfirmed report that the attack was carried out by someone who recently crossed the border. that initial fox report turned out to be very wrong. after publishing the report, one of the senior national correspondents walked back the claim saying that the truck actually crossed the border in november and that the person who drove the truck across the border was not the shooter. that's a pretty key piece of information. now, soon after fox posted its correction the fbi put out a statement saying the attacker was a u.s. citizen from texas and a veteran of the u.s. army. yet, those crucial new facts didn't change the focus of a number of republicans' or right-wing media. after the clarification from fox, after federal law enforcement officials told the country that the attacker was an american citizen, they have continued to link the new year's day attack to the risk of migrants crossing the border. >> congressional republicans, we near in the house in the senate have re

. >> despite the fact marjorie taylor green introduced a bill to rename the gulf of mexico the gulf ofdo think, you know, as trump talks about expanding america's power, he is doing something very concerted at the same time. he talked about a $40 billion foreign investment. he has put a for sale sign on count this country ironically. i wonder about your upons on his unwinding any sort of pesky regulations that may get in the way of foreign investment in the u.s. >> yeah. well you know, we have pretty well established mechanisms to make sure the foreign investment here in the united states is not a national security threat. their job is to make sure this sort of investment doesn't put at risk our national security. by the way, we are having a pretty ugly conversation about national security. when the current president refuses to let nippon steel by u.s. steel and does it on national security reasons though japan is probably our most important ally. it is a little built of a romper room here in washington, i hope at some point we recognize as the single most powerful country on the plane

today one of your former colleagues, congresswoman marjorie taylor greene also referred to it as a dayf love. a day where -- you were there. what do you think when you hear that version now and have to deal with the very real possibility that that version becomes as much the truth as the truth itself? >> well, let's be very clear. today was a very peaceful day. had kamala harris won, who knows? right? i guess we don't know. but it would be hard to see that. look, they keep talking about this day of love stuff. i almost think that they're reveling in being able to just blatantly lie about it. and they kind of find it funny. and frankly a lot of the people that are saying it was a day of love, they know it wasn't. they know that that was a trump- inspired insurrection. but they love being able to just stand there and kind of stick it to the libs, satellite that's kind of what they say. and say it was a day of love. i think history ultimately is going to be very accurate on what happened on january 6th. once donald trump is out of office in four years he'll be far less popular than he wen

you are either a marjorie taylor greene person or a lauren boebert person. boebert myself. but they call her lauren grope-ert, which really isn't fair. >> jon: so there is a lot of passive aggression down there. >> there is, indeed. >> jon: things aren't going to change much in the house because johnson was the speaker before. the republicans control the house. so generally, other than some changing of committee chair -- chairmanships and you are being elevated to rank, what is going to be different for democrats in the house in this new fashion? >> they've got a much narrower margin now. so i think we are down to 219-2015. because matt gaetz left and then and then elise stefanik is on her way out. [cheers and applause] while i appreciate that year. so it will be 217-215, which means they cannot afford to lose a single vote and they have already suffered the defection of congresswoman from indiana who got so mad about the fact that she wasn't put on the committee she wanted that she has left the republican conference and is an independent now, and we haven't

the way marjorie taylor greene can fund raise off of drama on the hill that almost has nothing to do with legislation, those checks are coming in from around the country. the same you can say about dozens of other members who really focus on the media opportunities over the legislative process. it is something that is visually so wild to see his after a big vote, everyone is streaming down the steps outside the house. usually running to their cars or running to catch a flight or whatever. now you will just see a smattering at the top of the stairs. they're all taking selfie videos to explain why they voted no or while we are so glad we voted yes on this. that ability through social media to connect directly -- not just with constituents, but with anyone who shares your worldview across the country in the world -- i think is interesting. i had some great conversations with patrick mchenry, other institutionalists who made the choice to leave and will not be joining us for the 119th congress about those incentives. how it is so possible to find someone across the aisle who cares about

already by republicans like marjorie taylor greene. he now was very soon going to have to contend with president- elect donald trump pretty much breathing down his neck at every turn. do you think that he is going to be able to walk this tight rope and if not, do you have any idea whether republicans have a success -- successor in mind already? >> that is one of the things that really helped mike johnson get elected in the first round this time. there is no plan b for republicans. there is no one who is next in line. there are three men that are either in the leadership were close to the leadership. steve scalise, the majority leader. tom emmer, the majority whip, jim jordan, a prominent committee chairman. they all tried to become speaker in the last congress, charles, and they failed. they could not get the votes to become speaker. in the case of jordan, there were three rounds of voting on the house floor and he lost votes to time. so, mike johnson is the only option for republicans right now. that, i think, works to his benefit bec

as soon as trump said it, congressional performer marjorie taylor greene jumped in right on cue to introducerepublicans could change the name. sure, why not? which of course has nothing to do with grocery prices. but other countries, they don't have to play along. mexico's president how do you shine bottom shut down the dumb idea, showing reporters a map of north america from 1607 labeled america mexicana. shane baume added that mexican america sounds nice, doesn't it? joining me now is david roth kopp, columnist for the daily beast and host of the deep state radio podcast. david, there is something that is so maga about the manifest destiny colonizer mentality they take toward other countries, right? panama is just some brown country they think they can seize, there canal, canada, they don't care what, they think we are going to sees it because they don't want us. greenland, all those 60,000 indigenous green landers, they can't stop us. it is kind of pure maga but it also does partly feel like a head fake because they know trump isn't going to do anything about it. what do you think? >> yes

the way marjorie taylor greene can fund raise off of drama on the hill that almost has nothing to do with legislation, those checks are coming in from around the country. the same you can say about dozens of other members who really focus on the media opportunities over the legislative process. it is something that is visually so wild to see his after a big vote, everyone is streaming down the steps outside the house. usually running to their cars or running to catch a flight or whatever. now you will just see a smattering at the top of the stairs. they're all taking selfie videos to explain why they voted no or while we are so glad we voted yes on this. that ability through social media to connect directly -- not just with constituents, but with anyone who shares your worldview across the country in the world -- i think is interesting. i had some great conversations with patrick mchenry, other institutionalists who made the choice to leave and will not be joining us for the 119th 's . even a state gop district collaborating on something like speeding up passport renewal times. somet

. >> on x, representative marjorie taylor greene asked, "why don't they use geoengineering like cloudeeding to bring rain down on the wildfires in california? they know how to do it." >> jon: who is "they," margaret? are you perhaps referring to the "they-ish" people? is that what it is, margaret? the very same people that control the area on fire? why would we -- they -- destroy the very industry we -- they -- control, when we have the means to bring the rains? we have space lasers and we can bring rain! the clues are there, margaret! alex knows. >> alex jones wrote that "los angeles fires are part of a larger globalist plot to wage economic warfare and deindustrialize the united states before triggering total collapse." >> jon: oh. all right, well, it is alex jones. he's certainly known for this type of thinking. i don't believe anyone's being taken in by this kind of thinking. >> elon musk responded by to that post by writing, "true." >> jon: now i feel sad. but unfortunately, a lot of the information that is out there is not correct. and because of poor forest management, that inf

it's the exact same level of nonsense is marjorie taylor greene saying that some rothchild space lasertarted the campfire in 2018. remember? this alex jones theory may have proven to much for musk who deleted his response but alex jones who lied about the sandy hook shooting being staged, get the message loud and clear. >> elon musk responded to a post from the first half hour of my show today where i laid out the basic evidence that the democratic party, with their policies, are 100% responsible, consciously, for the historic fire destroying much of los angeles in the last 48 hours. >> consciously. consciously. the absolute barrage of garbage, of filth, of sewage just being pumped into the brains of people is unbelievable. it starts to feel like a collective informational suicide . it doesn't help when the guy wants the so-called digital town squares blaming wokeness and fires. a journalist in prison of the media guild who previously reported for the los angeles times and been writing about disinformation including wildlife disinformation and each -- and he joins me now. matt, you kno

charged with crimes on january 6th as soon as his first day in office, georgia representative marjorie taylor says that's a good move. been mistreated far worse than anything that we've ever seen in our history. democrats say they disagree pardoning them. >> it's terrible example in a washington post op-ed, president biden accuse republicans have an unrelenting effort to downplay january 6th, adding we cannot allow the truth to be lost in washington. i'm today some lot. >> southern california is on wildfire. watch tonight. strong santa ana winds. they're set to return to the area tomorrow and pick up strength through wednesday. the national weather service predicting winds could gust up to 80 miles an hour in the mountain areas. the expected high winds, course, raising the risk for potential wildfires, especially thanks to a lack of rain in that area. >> lawrence is here now with a look at conditions. stuff. go down there. yeah, you know, downtown los angeles, they've had to hundreds of an inch of rain since october. they've been dry throughout the summer and then you haven't had any rain as

congresswoman marjorie taylor, greene says she's been urging him to pardon everyone involved.ther republicans favor a case-by-case approach. democrats argue the pardons might have dire consequences for the rule of law. more than 1500 people have been charged with crimes in connection with the insurrection. millions of people will get bigger social security checks because of a bill signed by president biden today. >> the social security fairness act effects current and former public employees, people who >> get pensions from working as teachers or firefighters, police officers, other public service jobs. about 3 million people are affected by this during the ceremony today, the president singled out a texas teenager who walks 1600 miles from texas to washington in support of that bill. >> a retired teachers struggle survive without the social security benefits year. he's on one right? >> the bipartisan bill contracts to provisions which have limited benefits for people who get retirement payments from other sources. a pulitzer prize winning cartoonist has resigned from the wash

he would make that name change, but within hours of the announcement, republican congresswoman marjorie taylor the name change official, saying she plans to file the bill as early as this morning. joining us political analyst brendon buck, communication strategist and former aides to house speakers ryan and boehner. i missed this campaign promise of renaming the gulf of mexico, so what do you make of this, and is this really where lawmakers should be focusing their attention? i have to say when i saw this from the congresswoman, it seemed almost too obvious, but also, who does this help? >> yeah. i mean it's the classic example of how this has become sort of entertainment politics and, you know, when more jorrie taylor green is on the case you can be sure it's serious. as you noted, they got a lot of big problems they need to figure out, a lot of questions they need to answer about their broader agenda and the fact that this is on his mind is very telling. at the same time, clearly this is him, classic donald trump, sort of negotiating, grabbing things and, you know, trying to use it as levera

i was surprised when marjorie taylor greene earlier switched because she had led the crusade to dumpd obviously, we should say that, you know, these most conservative members of the house republican party aren't happy because mike johnson doesn't get them the spending cuts they want. but on the other hand, you need democratic votes for that too as kevin mccarthy learned as well. >> well, a few differences, this time around as opposed to 2023 one of the lead troublemakers, matt gaetz, is no longer there. he isn't in congress. the big difference also from 2023 is tomorrow the house this is has to take part in certifying the results of the presidential election. and we all know because we study what chad pergram tells us -- [laughter] the house can't to the anything, house can't do anything unless, until it elects a speaker, okay? howard: right. >> can't do anything. they can't even be sworn in. howard: right. >> so the question is, tomorrow comes. it's the date to certify the election. there's no speaker. none of the members of the house have been officially sworn in. what happens then

there is no easy way to undo that unless you create your own fundraising machine, like aoc, like marjorie taylor greene, elise stefanik. do you want to have 53 members of your party all playing around trying to raise money or would you rather try to centralize things and have the majority leader do double covet? inevitably that means that you as a legislator to some degree to the person at the top of the chamber. there is no easy way to undo that unless you create your own fundraising machinelike and aoc, these are people that are able to build their own models and create their w own notions of money coming in where they just were able to create their own space if they wanted to between themselves and leadership. >> we are running low on time. let me try to take a few questions from theen audience consecutively and we will try to givebi some lightning around the answers and conclude. one in the sweater right here. ct happened. so i am really wondering -- this leads me to think that we may be -- what do you think forecasts may be for reverting to what is actually an older concept, the nixon years

there is no easy way to undo that unless you create your own fundraising machine, like aoc, like marjorie taylor greene, elise stefanik. these are people who were able to build their own model and create their own oceans of money coming in. they were able to create their own space if they wanted to distance from leadership. philip: we are running low on time, so let me try to take a few questions from the audience consecutively, and we will try to give some lightning round answers before we conclude. folks in the audience -- in the sweater, right here. >> thanks. and watching what happened with the shootdown of the reconciliation bill, we saw some interesting dynamics, which is that you did get elon musk involved. he apparently had his people use ai techniques to go through that bill, that 1500 pages, very, very quickly, pick out issues, and then revert to social media to dispute those issues and create the whole dynamic that happened. so i am really wondering -- this leads me to think that we may be -- what do you think forecasts may be for reverting to what is actually an older concept, the ni