the first bush administration, is one of the great great classics and lyrical journalism. >> marjorie williams, think she is passed away but she had two collections of books which are available. definitely work worth reading if you care about this stuff. they grow profile where she walked around the house, and certain parts of the house were on the record and certain parts were off the record. that table is off the record in that table is on the record. fantastic. let's continue with this theme of the insularity which you mentioned. the rule but i think you said she had, no new friends. >> i think you belong to both of them and they establish their rule in 2004 when he became famous and reiterated that. >> is that a good rule? >> well, we see its benefits and its harm. on the one hand, they have this really close nurturing group of friends from very similar backgrounds. african-americans from chicago, very similar pattern coming from working-class families, all went to elite universities and did extremely well and all these people ended up in hyde park together and really bonded together. on t