at lululemon which had a quarter that was so-so but calvin mcdonald, on the board of disney with mark bargerhey just get along? >> we'll see the other interesting thing about nike, this thing they teased with tiffany, which they said they would give more details on later you're talking about two companies that, arguably, target the higher end. >> lvmh. nike coming back in china. caterpillar said they're not coming back that much in china difference between a shoe and a machine. lululemon has had a bad run here, and this does not help maybe there's some people who didn't know they had footwear and they have footwear, let me check it out no david, these are companies, nike, lululemon, they're like the new generation companies. >> they are. >> owe hannah's marc benioff being charged too. >> they are. >> you never can tell the real impact of a lawsuit on stock prices >> some of these are [ inaudible ]. >> lawyers. >> i like lulu, but you get e-mails every 30 seconds about something they're discounting. >> lulu? >> we'll talk about it. >> i don't get any. >> you have to shop -- >> i have family m