>> some of those who voted this will be gone, mark begovich, he tried to convince other senators in theirvate luncheon just hours before the vote to get on board. clearly couldn't do it. some of those will be gone. as you look at the numbers in the incoming freshmen and the one who are getting on, they don't have what it will take to overcome a presidential vet 0 threat. >> mike, is all of this much adieu about nothing as the president waited to veto this anyway? >> the politics didn't make any sense. you are trying to happy mary lan drew. she is a goner in the december 6th run-off, down 16 points in the latest poll. got the numbers a little bit confused there but the point is the same. i mean, if she had somehow wrangled the 60th vote, she needed 15 democrats. she got 14. there is no question about it. the president was going to veto it. if her entire -- the predicate of her entire campaign was to demonstrate how much power she had in washington and the president vet 0s it, it's doift see how she would have made that logical leap with voters. what this was more about, i think, was harry