he's mark bittman, this is overheard. >> actually, there are not two sides to every issue. >> so i guess we can't fire him now. >> i guess we can't fire him now. the night that i win the emmy. >> being on the supreme court was an improbable dream. >> it's hard work and it's controversial. >> without information there is no freedom and it's journalists who provide that information. >> window rolls down and this guy says, hey, it goes to 11. [ laughter ] >> mark bittman, welcome. >> thanks, evan. >> great to see you, nice to meet you. what did you eat today? [ laughter ] >> chilly quieles what you call migas. >> i have to say i'm a little disappointed, you make me feel guilty. >> i had grapes for breakfast. >> you make me feel guilty, i think you probably in your zeal for directing us to eat certain ways, probably make other people feel guilty as well, but it's good to know that you actually indulge. >> well, i don't -- i think you have to read -- i know that you're half kidding when you say i make you feel guilty. >> only half. >> i think you have to read what i write thoroughly to unders