cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark boal to he's an international affairs and security analyst we also nothing but pure evidence i guess overall i would be a bit concerned about the state of journalism opened up with because. this is just emotional rhetoric about every time they do put forward evidence we often find that you should there's no evidence that there are but also several occasions we see that it's been disproven for example russia the electric grids or the voting booths but what happens after these journalists obviously got a completely wrong. and i guess that think it's worth having a debate about what extent it should be permitted to interfere somewhat in other selections but of course that's what the russian president also brought forward but if you have your high government official let's guess who i'm talking about you're a high government official you have a private server that is not secure don't you think every single intelligence agency in the world we've got to start looking all we founded on secured server ok that's what intel