host: we are talking with mark bowden about his deal on how to do -- about his book on how to deal withorth korea. our democratic line from san diego. caller: i wanted to talk to mark about perhaps the prospect of north koreans buying nuclear warheads on the black market. i saw a report on vice where it is very easy for certain individuals to acquire a nuclear warheads and having scientists to develop them. how would they put the nuclear warhead in the icbm? guest: these are old technologies. worrying about where north korea would get nuclear weapons is past the point because they have built them and exploded them. they have their own arsenal of nuclear weapons. most analysts believe they have figured out how to shrink the bomb to be small enough to be on top of a missile. they haven't successfully tipped the icbm but they shot one off a couple of months ago at a very high trajectory. it could've conceivably reselect further than any shot before. they're getting closer to their objective. host: from frederick, maryland on our independent line. caller: hi. i just wanted to say, thanks fo

mark bowden, pleasure to have you. mark: thank you. ♪ jeffrey: we continue now with foreign policy.he first time in quite a while, our country and leaders are questioning the underlying assumptions that have governed foreign policymaking since the end of world war ii, especially as they concern what america 's role in the world should be. here to discuss these challenges are, from washington, richard fontaine, the president of the center for new american security. here in new york is gideon rose, the editor of "foreign affairs magazine," and david miliband is here, president of the international rescue committee, just returned from visiting south sudan and uganda. i am pleased to welcome them all to the program. thank you for being here. there is the whole world to cover in the next period of time. we will get right to it. david, i want to come to world refugee day, which we are honoring or celebrating today. is it celebrating or marking? he's a diplomat and knows all the diplomatic words. i want to come to the question of north korea. barack obama told donald trump, as i mentioned

i appreciate it. >> goldberg: mark bowden is here, a national correspondent for "the atlantic," a magazinething about. he wrote the cover story for the july-august issue of our magazine called "how to deal with north korea." bowden is also the author of the 1999 book "blackhawk down" which is a finalist for the national award ." i am pleased to have mark bowden at the table. welcome, mark. >> thank you, jeff. >> goldberg: i'm glad you're here. the cover story this month is about north korea and the seemingly impossible challenge north korea poses to u.s. policy makers. we heard yesterday about otto warmbier, the american student imprisoned on false and ridiculous charges nonetheless, however you want to frame it, and was somehow catastrophically injured, we don't really understand how, in his north korean prison and died yesterday. i want you to just talk for one minute about what you think might have happened, why this happened and what it could mean. >> that's an outlaw regime, and they're very, very dangerous, as the cover story tries to make clear, but they're also very petty. and the

[applaus [applause] >> the book is "hue 1968", mark bowden is the author. thank you for your time today. [applaus [applause]. >> all right, thank you very much. we've got hue 1968 sold right outside the auditorium. >> thank you very much, appreciate it. >> you're watching book tv on c-span 2, television for serious readers. we're halfway through the coverage of the printers row lit fest from chicago. and david callaghan will discuss the new book on philanthropy, it's called "the givers." and now on book tv we'll introduce the new president of the norton publishing company. give us a quick synopsis of your career to this point. >> my career, i've spent almost 34 years at ww north. i was hired as a college traveler, selling books to campuses in ohio and kentucky and indiana. always wanted to be an editor in the literature field and eventually editing anthologies of literature for 30 years and doing some other kinds of work. and then this, so, it's a great ride. >> what are your duties going to entail as the new president? >> i think my main duty is to keep on

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. >> dickerson: we're back with mark bowden, the author of "blackhawk down."est book is "sway: 1968, the turning point in vietnam." today he's here to talk about whether north korea can be stopped. let's start with that answer. >> i don't think so, john. our best hope is china will apply significant pressure to get them to back away from this nuclear program, but nothing that the united states has done over the past 30 or 40 years has slowed their progress. and if you look at the actual military options that we have there, they're, you know, none of them are things that we would want to do. >> dickerson: you have written about vietnam. you know about the kind of public consensus that forms around ideas and they kind of create a momentum of themselves. and as you write in the piece, there is this consensus on both the left and the right that north korea cannot have a nuclear weapon. why? >> because they have been a serious threat to obviously south korea and to the region for many years now. particularly over the last ten years. i think for the united states, t

. >> goldberg: we continue with mark bowden of "the atlantic."er story for the magazine is called "how to deal with north korea." >> north korea has been a very dangerous player for a long time. they sunk a korean ship a few years ago, killed 70 or more sailors on board. they shelled an island and practically leveled it and killed a lot