for the code advisory committee, recommendations are jerry cunningham, mark cunningham, eileen dick, ira doerter, edgar fennie, fredric freund, rene vignos, stephen harris, shane o'reilly, arnie lerner, zachary nathan, lee yvonne phillips, jim reed, tony sanchez-corea iii, kevin wallace, tony lau, and robert wong. seats to expire august 18, 2013. before we nominate or whatever, there are a few new people. most of the people on here are people who reapplied or were reappointed. we got very few applications -- i believe we got a total of five -- and if you would like, maybe we could introduce those new people, or if you want to go one by one. >> why don't i say a little bit about what happened at the nomination committee? the nomination committee met just a week ago, a little over a week ago, and we were surprised that there was not very many public members -- in fact, there were no public members at the meeting, and we usually get a handful to a dozen people talking to us about the applicants and who applied and the merits of everybody. so what the commissioner -- what commissioner he