we are in the middle of a wonderful conversation with professor mark dollinger o dollinger who occupies the goldman chair in the department of jowish studies at san francisco state university. wee university. welcome back, mark.s mark. let's talk about the core thesis of the book. >> right. there are three parts tothe book. it kind of evolved backwards. i was really interested in how american jews became more ethnic in their judaism in the last 60s and 70s. the soviet jew removement picked up in the mid 60s when as an anti-communist movement, it should have come in the 1950s. jews rediscovered their faith and they became more kosher and traditional. even jews who turned to the far right did it at this moment. te moment. the more i looked at it, the more i realized they were emulating a model created by the black power movement. black nationalists and a young genern young generation of african ames african americans proclaimed it was okay to be public with your identity. i was interested to see that jews followed that model more than they as we could say authenticically created something