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voting harder on people but it's going to target young voters and minority voters the hardest. >> mark elias, democratic voting rights attorney, and one of the busiest men in politics, mark, thank you so much for helping us understand tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> all right, we have much more ahead here tonight, stay with us. (vo) right now at verizon, buy iphone 12 pro with 5g, and get another on us to give. because the only thing better than getting a new iphone 12 is giving one. get the 5g network you deserve with the 5g iphone you want. the network is just the beginning. the ups and downs of frequent mood swings can take you to deep, depressive lows. or, give you unusually high energy, even when depressed. overwhelmed by bipolar i? ask about vraylar. some medicines only treat the lows or highs. vraylar effectively treats depression, acute manic and mixed episodes of bipolar i in adults. full-spectrum relief for all bipolar i symptoms, with just one pill, once a day. elderly patients with dementia-related psychosis have an increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor abou

mark elias, we're so happy to talk to you, we know how busy you are, thank you for spending some times show once, from my time in the republican party, i was sure someone had written these laws and was pumping them out. is it sort of like a smoking gun to see that video and see how operationalized it is, or is this something you've known all along? >> so we've suspected this all along, but this is the smoking gun. we have seen the evidence of the gun, we saw the shootings, but now we know that there is in fact out of washington, d.c. a well-funded, conservative effort to spread the big lie from a cultural and political phenomenon into the laws of state after state after state. >> marc, what do you make of liz cheney breaking with her leadership ranks, they actually broke with her, over the big lie? joy reid made the point that she believes so much in democracy, she championed efforts to export it overseas. is she someone you would like to see involved in the fight to preserve our democracy here in the specific case of voting rights? >> absolutely. absolutely. look, liz cheney deserves

i know mark elias is bringing lawsuits against the bills but this seems flagrantly racial in the tacticshere why what can be done in the short term? >> i think that it is clearly racial. when you look at harris county and there's an office and board members there in harris, a predominantly black county and other counties impacted and it is racial and i think what must be done is that the justice department needs to come in under civil rights legislation -- civil rights lawsuits to try and stop this process. i remember when texas tried to start instituting the voter i.d. laws in texas that attorney general holder came in and sued and i would hope that attorney general garland and his new head of the civil rights division come in and try to intervene. this is another reason why we need the john lewis voting bill passed as well as senate bill 1 because they would have had to preclear this had the voting rights act still be in force the way it was but taken out section 4 and 5 texas doesn't have to preclear the changes so we have to be proactive and need that legislation back in to deal with

. >> marc elias democratic voting rights attorney, founder of democracy docket, and one of the busiest man in politics. markou so much for helping understand tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> aren't we have much more ahead tonight, stay with us. ahead tonight, stay with us. ahead tonight, stay with us. the bowls are back. applebee's irresist-a-bowls all just $8.99. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google, turn up the heat. ♪ ♪ ♪ when it comes to laundry, everyone thinks their way is the right way. i wash on delicate. i just stuff everything in. you have to wash on cold, because it saves energy. the secret is, tide pods work no matter how you wash. so, everyone is right. it's got to be tide. this is our block. our place. our people. watch the curb. not having a ride to get the vaccine. can't be the reason you don't get it. you wanna help? donate a ride today. losing a tooth didn't stop you but your partial can act like a bacteria magnet, putting natural teeth at risk. new polident propartial helps purify your partial and strengthens and protects natural teeth. so, are you gonna lose another tooth? not on my watch! all