mark elias joins us now. protections, the double jeopardy protections, right? can't be tried ties so democracy doesn't have to be protected and win narrowly twice. tell me about this sort of manufacturing of voter suppression and gerrymandering in the state. >> yeah, nicole. this is really, really concerning, and everyone in america should be worried about this. the fact is that the north carolina supreme court decided two cases, one outlawing partisan gerrymandering, one outlawing or blocking the state's i.d. law, because it was deemed to be racist and in violation of the state institution. republicans decided that they can't pass laws that meet muster, so instead, they elected a new slate of republican justices to the state supreme court and then immediately asked those justices to re-hear these earlier cases. now, just to be clear, in the briefs that they filed on january 20th, on the same day, the lawyers for the legislature could only cite four instances since 1910 that the state supreme court in north c

let's bring in mark elias. mark, you don't have a slow season. for new, novel, more aggressive ways to limit access to drop boxes and these means often used in the old days by republicans but these days by people who tend to vote democratic. does one plus one equal two? >> yeah, and thank you for having me on, because i think it's important for people to realize that all of the time and attention people focus on voter suppression and election subversion in the months leading up to election are not the only time that this is going on. this is going on day in, day out, year in, year out, whether there is something else dominating the news or not. there is a battle for whether we are going to have an inclusive democracy or whether we're going to exclude people from democracy, and as legislative sessions begin now in states around the country, we are going to see new, more creative ways by republican legislatures to make voting harder, particularly targeting black, brown, and young voters. ohio was just the first of what is to come. >> mark, when you