mark esper, appreciate your time, sir.nk you. >> thank you. >> even though a fellow republican indonesia quited the move, kevin mccarthy is blaming democrats for losing his leadership post. >> today was a political decision by the democrats. i think the things they have done in the past hurt the institution. >> the number two dashcam inthe house katherine clark we will ask her where the house goes from here. stay with us.

now to the former secretary of defense under proop presidentrump and author of "a sacred oath" mark esper. good to have you back with us today. you know -- >> good morning. >> we are having conversations about just how politically difficult basic matters of governance are in washington. and i wonder what sign you think that send to our adversaries around the world? >> thank you, margaret for having me on. let me salute dianne feinstein as we mourn her passing. she was a real leader in the senate. at times she would buck her party and she could reach across the aisle. she was a leader from my time on capitol hill and we're going to miss her and need more people like her. again, my condolences and salute out to her. look, on your question with regard to our allies see, vladimir putin sits in russia today and looks across the landscape, and he sees the united states of america, which is unwilling to spend what it needs to on defense. it is now pulling back spend for ukraine. we've seen successive republican votes where more and more vote against funding for ukraine. he sees coups in africa p

we'll talk to south carolina senator lindsey graham and trump administration defense secretary mark esperncluded in the bill? $16 billion in disaster relief. that type of funding will help with once unthinkable scenes like the new york flooding. the state's governor kathy hochul will join us. >>> bipartisanship saved the day. this time around on capitol hill. can it happen again? we'll talk to the heads of the self-proclaimed house problem solvers caucus. new jersey democrat josh gottheimer and pennsylvania republican fitzpatrick. >>> a tribute to dianne feinstein who died last week at the age of 90 and the longest living president celebrates his 99th. it's all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ >>> good morning. welcome to "face the nation." congress has done it once again. they've kicked the can down the road passing a 45-day funding bill to keep the government running. the deadline for getting spending bills passed is november 17th. joining us this morning, the speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy. good morning. you've had a heck of a week. >> yeah. >> there is a lot to get to with you

joining us with more on what to expect is former defense secretary, mark esper. secretary peesper, it's good to have you. welcome. >> good to be with you, sarah. thank you. >> what are we looking at in terms of a time frame? we're hoping for something swift here sas far as the war, but what's the minimum expectation? >> i think at a minimum this conflict will last weeks for sure, but it depends on what are the goals of the netanyahu government? is it simply to go in, decapitate hamas, get rid of all of its military potential and pull out, or occupy or reoccupy until they're really sewer that hamas is completely ineffective. i think it depends on what the goals are. and then, of course, does it escalate. does hezbollah attack the north? is there some type of action in iran to the east. and on top of all of h is the complicating factor of hamas holding 130 to 140 hostages. we know they've already threatened to start killinging hostages on tv if further civilian targets are attacked in gaza. so very complicated situation. >> keep your kids off social media. so "the

. >> sandra: let's bring in mark esper now. mr. secretary, welcome to you. this hamas hostage ultimatum that is happening, what do you expect we are going to hear from benjamin netanyahu any moment now? >> look, it's barbaric that they would threaten to do that. and i'm convinced they would. and that of course complicates what the mission of the idea will be. i think we are anxious to hear what prime minister netanyahu will say without the hostages. it's unclear what the goal will be. will it be to completely decapitate hamas leadership, get rid of their military capabilities, so fort and so on. or to go further and reoccupy gaz which most people think is unlikely. it's all complicated by the hostage situation as well. and how this might evolve because they, israel, has to be worried about hezbollah to the north, uprising possible in the west bank and of course this all goes back to iran. and what might iran do. and that to me is the big strategic question that is lying out there. >> so, mr. secretary, let me ask you this question. yesterday the wall street

let's talk more about this with former defense secretary mark esper. start where i just left with orrin talking about 140,000, at least, guided rockets. they're guided by -- or supported by hezbollah in the north of israel. you have that and what is going on in a very active way inside israel and across the border in gaza. how concerned are you about this spiralling and escalating. ? >> sure. my thoughts and prayers go out to the israeli citizens who were injured, killed or captured in these terrorist attacks and to their families, as well. i think they're all in our hearts. orrin laid it out fairly well and the immediate task is to get this situation under control in israel and make sure that all of the militants still running around are killed or captured. i know the idf is currently doing that. but the first major test is how do they approach gaza? i think based on previous experiences and this is unprecedented we know the r israelis will go into gaza and decapitate hamas leadership and go to bunkers, et cetera, et cetera and the key is it has to lo

. >> joining us now to discuss the former secretary of defense under president trump, mark esper, secretary esper, there is this growing divide within the republican party over tying aid to ukraine with aid to israel. today the current defense secretary lloyd austin said not sending aid to ukraine could soon result in u.s. troops fighting in europe. why do republicans see aid for israel and aid for ukraine so differently, do you think? and what's your view? >> good evening, jake. good to be with you, first of all. look, i believe that aid for israel and ukraine and the rest of the package too, which includes taiwan and border security should all be passed. i think it's important to our national security. i think it's important to our border security. and i think it sends the right messages to iran and russia and china about the seriousness for which we take defense and unity of our political leaders here in the united states. i don't know exactly why republicans are split on this issue. clearly former president trump has spoken out and others on that wing of the party talked about the need

matter which i'm sure the idf is considering very carefully as well. >> former defense secretary mark esper, thank you for your time. >> a lot more from israel to washington. concern about how the house speaker vacancy could impact the american response gop effort to find a nominee again under way now. we're live on capitol hill next. >>> so on capitol hill, we're following breaking developments in the republican race for speaker of the house. >> right now representatives jim jordan and austin scott are making the case for why they should be the new nominee after congressman steve scalise quit the race last night and former speaker kevin mccarthy spoke about who he is going to support. let's listen. >> i'm going to support jim jordan. >> do you think he has the votes to go to the floor? >> i think he's got -- i think he's got the votes. we'll see. >> what is your message to him? >> look, i think everybody has a right to run. i think jim is better prepared in the process to be speaker. >> so right now members are behind closed doors, hearing from jim jordan and austin scott of georgia. >> wi

former defense second toir mark esper and what this means for geopolitical risk. >> ask mark esper --60 minutes" interviewed general milley, who said if we allowed putin to win, defense spending in the u.s. will double at least as a result of that. interesting question. thanks for watching "power lunch." >> "closing bell" starts right now. >> i'm scott wapner at the new york stock exchange. this hour begins with markets on edge as acritical week gets under way. clearly, the events in the middle east have introduced a new level of risk for investors, but markets are strengthening as we move into this final hour. look at your scorecard with 60 minutes to go in regulation. at the highs of the day across the board. that's despite those geopolitical concerns. even the nasdaq, which was the big loser earlier, has turned around. it's good for 0.5%. everything is in the green, that ah

this was an incredible intelligence mark esper say that honor air earlier today.e the buildup were given the way in which israel has infiltrated the palestinian areas on gaza and into the hamas networks to not have heard this is being planned is an incredible coup. it's an intelligent coup there will definitely be i am sure investigations into the future once this war is over. and it is a war that's what prime minister benjamin netanyahu is calling it. once it is over the intelligence failure will have to be addressed. arthel: indeed they attacked by land, by air, by sea. you are right. netanyahu said we are at war. the question i ask you before we go is how does this affect america's national security? we want to know this and what about our troops stationed in the middle east? >> u.s. national security is intricately linked with israel national security. that's what defense secretary austin and the president were on the phone this morning with their israeli counterparts but i'm told we can expect more calls in the coming days. there will be very close coordinati

mark esper, thanks, sir. breaking right now, president biden confirming the safe release of two american citizens identified as judith and natalie rannan taken from a kibbutz near the gaza strip. the president writing in part, jill and i have been holding close in our hearts all the families of unaccounted americans. as i told the families, we will not stop until we get their loved ones home. as president, i have no hirer priority of the safety of the americans held hostage around the world. we'll have continuing coverage. still waiting for a state department briefing. also to talk about the release of the hostages, natalie and judith. they are mother, judith. more news on them as it comes in. progressive members of the squad calling for a cease fire in israel. >> so our call is clear. a cease fire now to save lives. vengeance is not a foreign policy doctrine. >> trace: how one member of that group responded to fix's questions about the terror group, hamas, next. from pep in their step to shine in their coats

. >> ask mark esper -- last night "60 minutes" interviewed general milley, who said if we allowed putin to win, defense spending in the u.s. will double at least as a result of that. interesting question. thanks for watching "power lunch." >> "closing bell" starts right now. >> i'm scott wapner at the new york stock exchange. this hour begins with markets on edge as acritical week gets under way. clearly, the events in the middle east have introduced a new level of risk for investors, but markets are strengthening as we move into this final hour. look at your scorecard with 60 minutes to go in regulation. at the highs of the day across the board. that's despite those geopolitical concerns. even the nasdaq, which was the big loser earlier, has turned around. it's good for 0.5%. everything is in the green, that ahead of earnings and important inflation data still to come later in the week. so, there's a lot ahead of us obviously. also worth noting today, the bond markets closed but importantly bond futures suggested a much-needed rate relief could be on the way tomorrow as yields look as

joining us now, former defense secretary in the trump administration mark esper. mr.retary, thank you very much for joining us. can you explain the assets that are being sent to israel right now? >> sure, katy, first of all, great to be with you this afternoon. what was sent was a carrier strike group under the newest aircraft carrier, the gerald ford and it includes a cruiser and four destroyers, and that gives the united states a lot of capability to respond to different things should they arise in the region. first and foremost, i think the purpose of sending the carrier strike group to the eastern mediterranean off the coast of israel is to show support for israel, a carrier and a strike group is a very physical, muscular reminder of the support, and secondly, of course, it's to deter bad actors in a region who might want to take advantage of that, principally, syria and iran, and of course the united states could assist with lesser threats. i think israel could handle that. as you mentioned, the task force can provide noncombatant evacuation operations if need be

this is the former defense secretary mark esper speaking with neil cavuto. as - this is an intelligence failure, he was very blunt about that. officials say this is the largest attack on israel and 50 years going back to the yom kippur war which was launched 50 years ago. eric: thank you very much. arthel: we will be right back with more coverage on hamas attacks on israel. ♪ new neuriva ultra. unlike some others, it supports 7 brain health indicators, including mental alertness from one serving. to help keep me sharp. try new neuriva ultra. think bigger. when you need to prepare for unpredictable adventures... (gasp) you need weathertech. [hot dog splat.] laser measured floorliners front and rear. [drink slurp and splat.] (scream) seat protector to save the seats. [honk!] they're all yours! we're here! hey, i knew you were comin'... so i weatherteched the car! can we get ice cream? we can now. kid proof your vehicle with american made products at weathertech.com. arthel: president biden vowing support for israel after today's unprecedented hamas attacks but

. >> i want you to the former secretary of defense and mark esper said. >> it was a surprise, it caughtsraelis off guard see anything intelligence failure and what we are dealing with the tactical situation on the ground, terrible and tragic for israeli citizens military. >> the bowman quote -- back to me, if you believe intelligence failure? never thought would be linked up with israel. >> the israelis have the best intelligence will be in the world, baby at times second two hours and superior to ours. how they missed it, i don't k know. i think there is time to sort through that but right now they are in a fight for their lives and the lives of their most global citizens so while we can acknowledge they should have some inkling this massive attack was being planned, right now the fundamental issue is destroyed. not pushing back but destroyed hamas and i am so glad netanyahu is the prime minister of israel right now under a lot of attack and people don't like him but there's no greater statement on the planet understand the big picture anymore and netanyahu and i believe he is the man

. >> i want you to the former secretary of defense and mark esper said. >> it was a surprise, it caughtf guard see anything intelligence failure and what we are dealing with the tactical situation on the ground, terrible and tragic for israeli citizens military. >> the bowman quote -- back to me, if you believe intelligence failure? never thought would be linked up with israel. >> the israelis have the best intelligence will be in the world, baby at times second two hours and superior to ours. how they missed it, i don't kn know. i think there is time to sort through that but right now they are in a fight for their lives and the lives of their most global citizens so while we can acknowledge they should have some inkling this massive attack was being planned, right now the fundamental issue is destroyed. not pushing back but destroyed hamas and i am so glad netanyahu is the prime minister of israel right now under a lot of attack and people don't like him but there's no greater statement on the planet understand the big picture anymore and netanyahu and i believe he is the man for the h

reporter: earlier defense secretary mark esper called this intelligence failure already jon we're seeingout the war on ukraine had that impact here on the battlefield we've seen images on social media of israeli tank being destroyed with a drone. using a -- a grenade to be dropped right on top of tank softest part of the tarng and images are a daily reminder what goes on in ukraine every day and hamas and iran's hand here in this. jon. jon: eventually iranian and saudis are not particularly friendly. but anything to derail the peace, peace deal, potential peace deal with the saudis serves iran's best interest is that the way it seen there lucas? reporter: there's no question and many people this is not a coincidence that just at a time the closest time in history that saudi arabia and israel could be normalizing relations for the first time ever -- the fact that this attack was launched today on the 50th anniversary one day after the 50th anniversary of the i don'tm kippur war and many people says that not a coincidence, jon. jon: lucas tomlinson we'll check in with you again, thank you

now, mark esper joins us who has a big fancy title, he is a screaming eagle of the 101st airborne withthan: the secretary -- secretary esper, fantastic to catch up with you. i want to lean on you. we have seen some landmark accords come out of the trump administration establishing diplomatic relations between israel and places that we would. we would hope -- we will helpful -- we were hopeful that this would take place. are we learning that there are some forces that just do not want peace? sec. esper: of course we do and that is iran, principally, and there are proxy groups around the region that they support, hezbollah, the shiia militia groups. a big part of what motivated hamas to attack and the way that they did was the fact that the normalization record between the saudis and israelis were -- was moving forward, albeit slowly. if it was concluded on the terms that were leaking out that would have meant a shift of power back to palestinian authority which hamas is opposed to. there is friction between the palestinian authority and hamas. and then iran would also be hurt by normali

. >> and his former defense secretary mark esper this morning on face the nation called trump a threat to democrat. this is trump's only official in the office in the second term. but the candidates aren't saying anything about it. the primary candidates. they don't attack him about this kind of rhetoric. we've heard very little other than pence and chris christie who just said some -- talked about some of the milley accusations. but these candidates doan seem to think that this works pointing out trump's rhetoric with the primary base. >> right. and it is the calculation that we've discussed over and over. trump has a grip on such a large part of the republican base that if any of these people want to hope to emerge as a trump alternative and however avenue possible, they can't afford to alienate and that major block of voters there. but it is, again, these are -- as people who have covered trump for many years at this point, it is still just remarkable how stunning these allegations and dangerous his rhetoric can be. and again, going back to amy's point, that is the split screen, the

. >> dana: joining us is former defense secretary mark esper. >> bill: sir, good morning to you. thank you for your time. what would the posture be for the strike groups in that region? >> i think first of all, bill, the posture will be to maintain an active patrol in the eastern mediterranean, prepare to support. first of all the message of the presence is political to send an assurance to israel that we got their back for them. second, it's a very strong deterrence message to iran, to syria and to hezbollah and southern lebanon, not to do anything. not to open up a second front or a third front. then, the third is it can facilitate other operations whether it's an evacuation, hostage rescue. i might add, we get back to the fact opening up other fronts. the ships have incredible contain to deploy munitions by aircraft but also to do anti-ballistic missile engagement. that's another capability that come in play should iran get involved. very important capabilities and messages being sent by the strike groups. >> dana: i'm back with you mr. . the secretary of state antony blinken

. >> and earlier former defense secretary mark esper called large attack on israel today an intelligencelure. griff. >> lucas tomlinson live from the north of the white house, lucas thank you very much. it is not just president biden and others speaking out we're hearing from the candidates that want his job on the republican side ron desantis expressing his support for israel. listen. >> first just let me say, as americans this morning, we all stand with the state of israel who is undergoing a terrorist attack by hamas. by iranian backed militants they not only have a right to defend themselveses. they have a responsibility to defend themselves with overwhelming force. we will stand by them when they do. >> let's go around the table lisa clearly we're going hear from all of the candidates essentially and important moment on the campaign trail for them to stand up to show if they were the leader at the moment they could handle it. >> and we're seeing a lot of solidarity in support of israel as we should. but i do worry about as these dynamics play out not from the right but from the left

you know, nine divided by 11 happened and former defense secretary mark esper said the same thing earliergriff. he said this was also an intelligence failure. griff and lucas, we saw president biden speaking today, obviously. do we have any idea for what he may be doing publicly tomorrow on this ? there's no questions. officials here at the white house will be meeting tomorrow. he will convene the national security council and there will be meetings in terms of the next time we'll hear president biden speak again. that is yet to be determined. griff all right. lucas thompson live for us from the white house. lucas, thank you. and israel is at war tonight after this morning's unprecedented surprise attack by iranian backed terrorist group hamas. the attack, which has left at least 250 israelis dead and thousands more injured, is now being labeled as a historic intelligence failure. as you just heard, senator lindsey graham saying as much comes as israeli intelligence forces were left completely blindsided as terrorists launched their assault by land, air and sea. joining us now with reacti

former defense secretary mark esper spoke about the attacks this morning and this blunt assessment. >as a surprise but cost the israelis completely off guard. you cannot say anything but it was an intelligence failure. we are dealing with the tactical situation on the ground which is terrible and tragic for both israeli citizens and the israeli military. >> the white house as president biden will be addressing the nation and the world in just a few minutes or at the white house at 2:30 p.m. eastern time. of course we will take that live on fox for just a reminder of the reach of the israeli forces back in 1976 with the raid airliner was hijacked out of israel and eight raid was launched out of israel using an elite commando unit out of israel equivalent to the u.s. army. green berets are the delta force and the leader of that elite commando unit was benjamin netanyahu brother who was tragically killed during the raid. arthel: thank you for that lucas tomlinson their life at the white house for it again will take president biden live with his remarks when he is ready to give them. eric

secretary of defense mark esper. that coming up on bloomberg surveillance.ou can get everything you need to know on our top stories in a roundup of the other stories you need to get your day going in today' edition of daybreaks. all you have to do is type in da why bigo on your bloomberg terminal. there's a lot to digest, including the earnings story. we are already getting some of these european stories that are breaking. i want to start off with nokia specifically. they have, and said they are cutting up to 14,000 jobs to reduce some of their costs. they said it's a program to reset its cost base, saying this will help with longer-term growth, enable the market to navigate the current market uncertainty. when they are talking about costs, let's talk about how much. they say it will help them by somewhere between 800 to 1.2 billion euros by the end of 2026. that is subject to variability. adjusted operating margin coming in a bit shyer than expected at about 8.5% relative to 9.4%. renault as well is reporting as well. they are coming out and sing that they

attack launched not only on us rile's sabbath -- israel's sabbath, but former defense secretary mark esper this morning offered this blunt assessment of what happened. >> it was a surprise. it caught9 the israelis completely off guard. you can't say anything but it was an intelligence failure. and i think, look, we're dealing with a tactical situation on the ground which is terrible and tragic for both the israeli citizens and the israeli military. >> reporter: senator tom cotton releasing a statement a short time ago which i will read in part, quote: this war is a transparent attempt by iran to derail the peace talks between israel and saudi arabia. now, just a reminder of the reach of israeli forces going back to 1976, there was an air france flight from israel that was hijacked by palestinian terrorists as well as german leftist terrorists as well. israel, there's an i elite commando use equivalent to the u.s. army's delta force, launched a daring raid to rescue the passengers. benjamin netanyahu's brother head that raid and, tragically, he was killed, the only israeli casualty from the

just in the last hour speaking to you, neil, mark esper gave these candid remarks. >> it was a surprise, caught the israelis completely off guard and you can't say anything, but it was an intelligence failure. we're dealing with a tactical situation on the ground, which is terrible and tragic for both israeli citizens and the israeli military. >> congressman mike wall is taking to twitter, this is 100% iran calling the shots, and no question in ukraine, we're having an impact on social media, reported a hamas drone destroying an israel tank and dropping it down on the soft part of the tank, the turret, destroying the tank. neil: we talk about the administration's response and in this case, support israel and all that. are they concerned about how strongly saudi arabia is responding, and essentially putting the blame-- they might be talking, and the blaming on israel, pretty much the same response, you've gotten from a number of other so-called moderate arab players. does that give them some pause? >> of course, the backdrop of this and our own bret baier we heard from your program just

we're joined at post 9 by former secretary of defense, mark esper. secretary esper, it's good to have you here. >> good to be here. >> what do you think we'll hear from the president tonight? >> i think he'll speak to the state of play in israel with regard to the attacks by hamas into israel and the expected incursion by israel there. i think he'll speak to the humanitarian concerns that is ever present. and i hope he will speak about iran and what it may mean for an expansion of this conflict once israel begins that incursion into gaza. >> what does it mean for iran at this point? >> well, look, i think given the messages we've seen from iran, we hear from hezbollah that if they go in, i expect that you'll see a widened conflict on the southern lebanon border. we hear reports today of more m missile attacks into israeli communities. less reported attacks on american bases. you see some of the rhetoric coming from tehran and rhetoric from other parts and still at play are the 200 some hostages that hamas has threatened to execute if israel comes in.

you know, nine divided by 11 happened and former defense secretary mark esper said the same thing earliergriff. he said this was also an intelligence failure. griff and lucas, we saw president biden speaking today, obviously. do we have any idea for what he may be doing publicly tomorrow on this ? there's no questions. officials here at the white house will be meeting tomorrow. he will convene the national security council and there will be meetings in terms of the next time we'll hear president biden speak again. that is yet to be determined. griff all right. lucas thompson live for us from the white house. lucas, thank you. and israel is at war tonight after this morning's unprecedented surprise attack by iranian backed terrorist group hamas. the attack, which has left at least 250 israelis dead and thousands more injured, is now being labeled as a historic intelligence failure. as you just heard, senator lindsey graham saying as much comes as israeli intelligence forces were left completely blindsided as terrorists launched their assault by land, air and sea. joining us now with reacti

to mark esper right now, formerrist defense secretary, author of "a sacred oath." mark, good to have you, as always. first of all, what do you make of the surprise nature of this in -- of this? >> i think that is a significant part of this, neil. it was a surprise. it caught the israelis completely off guard, and you can't say anything but it was an intelligence failure. i think, look, we're dealing with a tactical situation on the ground which is terrible ask tragic for both the israeli citizens and the israeli military, but this is going to ripple in multiple ways. being such a failure, will it cause the collapse of the netanyahu government, or the -- or will the israeli people rally around him at least for a while? we could speak about how it reaches from tehran to the united states and elsewhere also. neil: you know, secretary, i'm old enough to remember that yom kippur war, the start of that war, where it led and the arab community was joined by every key member condemning the united states for what it claimed was the sponsorship and continued support after the

when those revelations came out in mark esper's memoir about president trump's musing about bombing, missile strikes and dying the u.s. had anything to do with it, it was widely derided and regarded with some degree of amusement and as being absurd. i think what we have seen is this notion of once off-the- wall in records to keep the abnormal has become on the wall and all to normal. as you refer to has gained a lot of traction, the idea of using military force against drug trafficking organizations in mexico are using military force to counter the movement of fentanyl into the united states is get a lot of traction, particularly, the candidate for the republican nomination for president. so, while it may have been true in the trump administration that the pentagon is what the pentagon does, it's the walks ideas it doesn't like, the more this idea is out of their in congress, in the public debate, being endorsed by politicians, the more likely it is to habituate the bureaucracy and the less likely the bureaucracy is to push back on this. i've seen the parallels in the last 10 years o

instead, according to former defense secretary mark esper, he and the general made a pact to protectticized or misused. it's also been reported that you spent several days, several drafts of resignation letters. >> that's right. >> i was very struck by the one that was published in which you said to the president, "it is my deeply held belief that you are ruining the international order, causing significant damage to our country overseas that was fought so hard by the greatest generation in 1945. that generation has fought against fascism, has fought against nazism, has fought against extremism. it's now obvious to me that you don't understand that world order." you don't think donald trump understood what world war ii was fought over? >> i don't know what president -- former president trump understood about world war ii or anything else. i can tell you that from 1914 to 1945, 150 million people or thereabouts were slaughtered in the conduct of great power war. in 1945, the united states took the initiative and drafted up a set of rules that govern the world to this day. those rules

mark esper joins us this hour as fighting in the middle east stretches into its fifth day. >> and theind birkenstock's highly anticipated ipo. >> and later, a new short from muddy waters. carson block will join us with a sector he says to be bearish on. >>> let's start with the markets. wholesale inflation, ppi coming in a bit hotter than expected this morning, signaling the fed might need to continue to raise rates, at leas

early 2020, and the first time those comments became pub was when his second defense secretary mark esper wrote in his memoir trumped raised it with him and asked if the u.s. could make it look as if some other country was responsible" portrayg the ideas ludicr instead of condemning the idea, some republicas publicly welcomed using force against drug cartels on mexican soil and without the consent of mexican's government. trump's notion of a military intervention south of the border has swiftly evolved from an oval office fantasy to something approaching republican party doctrine. and as we all know all too well, even the events of january 6th, when a mob of trump supporters believing trump's lies about the u.s. election results storm the capitol, the impact of trump's rhetoric is easily seen on the streets. "new york times" reports this on anti-migrant protests that took place in new york city lt month. "the loud speaker on a quiet staten island street blasted demands at 117 decibelsour than a dog barking in your ear a school shelter 110,000 migrants whoed in new york city over the last

. >> let's discuss with mark ac esper, the former secretary under president trump. want your reaction to news that judith and natalie ranaan are heading home, or at least this that they have been released by hamas. >> good news for them, their families and the other hostages. kaitlan answered one of the questions i had, which is why them? but the bigger question is why? why now? why two? i'm sure others have theories. people were telling hamas, you should release a couple to show some type of good faith that we can deal with you, and maybe hamas' logic was if they do that they can fore stall the israeli invasion they don't want to happen and allow their allies to cot to put political pressure on israel. that's kind of my best guess at why they're doing this now and why with just two. >> our understanding is their release was negotiated by qatar. they negotiated directly with hamas. walk us through how these hostage handovers work when there isn't a direction line of communication between one party, the party that the hostages have been taken from, like israel and th

mark milley, trump fired secretary esper, a very fine man.g of thugs, there was an acting homeland security. he tried to fire the cia director. there was an acting fbi director, if i remember. there was an active ongoing attempt to seize control with the cooperation of some republican congressmen on the hill. to seize control of the government. not leave office. astonishing. so mark milley said, as he should have, at age 17 i was sworn into the armed forces and we all understood the rule of law, constitutional dictates. so we are faced with a rel dilemma right now. trump is a major threat to the governance of the united states, to our democracy, the rule of law. and mark milley, thankfully, hockey player, you know, very bright, very well read, a man of honor, tons of time in combat, shot at with real bullets, stood up and helped stop a coup against the united states. >> you know, mike, your reporting on kelly precedes chairman milley's retirement in coming out. but i wonder if you think that there is something about the solidarity and the bon

. >> reporter: former defense secretary mark esper and senator lindsey graham both called this attacktelligence failure. shannon. >> shannon: lucas thank you very much. joining us now john finer, deputy national security advisor with the biden administration. john thank you for your time this morning. let's start there on the intelligence failure. there are if i caners pointed at israeli intelligence but also us intelligence that we didn't pick this up. what's your response this morning? >> my response is we are laser focused and president biden, who has a 50-year record of solidarity support and resolve for israel is focused on making sure that they have everything that they need to respond to this appalling attack, everything they need militarily all the diplomatic support and all the intelligence support. there will be a time and place to look back on exactly how this happened, who knew what when but that moment is not now while still in the throes of the attack as your reporting just showed this is still ongoing. >> shannon: with a number of top iranian officials coming out saying