i was just talking to mark fallon about torture. was talking about the most brutal interrogations of any detainee. i want to clarify that gina haspel was not according to our reporting present at those interrogations. this is information we have from current and former u.s. officials who say she arrived at the base where those interrogations took place after those interrogations had occurred. so, while she is accused of doing a whole bunch of things related to interrogation and the support of it including the allegation that she destroyed some videos, she was not on hand according to our reporting at the interrogation of abu sabeda. wayant to go to cnbc where larry kudlow, the president's new nominee as top economic advisor is speaking with my colleagues over at cnbc. let's listen in. >> congratulations. >> thank you. >> to you. talk us through the last couple weeks. when did the president first get in touch with you? when did he formally offer you the role and what was your immediate reaction? >> well, the last one is easy. my imme

visit the united states so he is skypeing from mauritania, southwest of algeria where he lives, mark falloneries negative and special agent in charge of an al qaeda task force was our last offer, andrea pitzer, is the author of one long night of concentration camps, she writes about humanity's tendency not to learn or remember the past. welcome all of you. the authors and guests. this is a little bit of a historical night, the first time as far as we know that anyone has skype into the festival let alone internationally. the first time, we just lost mohammedyou. i think we will accept it. sorry. okay. he appears in both of their books and has spoken with them before but the first time he is appearing on a panel with the 3 of them on the panel together. let's start. >> pleased to be with you, thank you. i am so happy to be here with this panel, with mark and andrea, thank you for organizing this and i think the virginia festival of the book for having me. actually, i wrote this book by accident. as a matter of fact i'm a very lazy person. in high school, my arabic teacher suggested that i sh