vicki: mark franÇois, thank you very much indeed. he plan for those who want to see some changes. there is a big question mark over the numbers. he is making the point -- he is right that there are some people who voted for the bill who are unhappy with it, but they want to carry on and try to change it. the problem rishi sunak has is he has a whole chunk of other mps who don't wanted to go any further in terms of effectively suspending some of those human rights to stop people appealing when they are threatened with deportation to rwanda. christian: that would be interesting. we will come back to you if you managed to snare one much more reaction to come. you are watching bbc news. let's pause and take a quick look at some of the other stores making headlines today. police and whales have named three teenagers who died following a collision between a bus and a car and call delhi on monday evening, jesse owen and morgan smith aged 18, callum griffiths was 19. two other young men remain in hospital with life-threatening injuries. all f

mark francois . stop the boats. mark francois.old gb news earlier today that if he can't stop the boats and that's an absolute position, not reduce by stop them reduce them by 30, stop them then very hard to how then it's very hard to see how then it's very hard to see how the support following the mps can support it following him to him was mark francois. the mps can support it following him to him was mark francois . as him to him was mark francois. as i said, he's a chairman of the european research group of tory mps. richard drax mp, first in there from the right. 100 there from the right. around 100 mps be meeting there. mps are due to be meeting there. we're a statement on we're expecting a statement on camera at 12:45 pm, which of course will bring to you as soon as we can on gb news. if not then or at 1:00 and no question rishi sunak the pm is in the wrong place today. he's in paddington discussing his time as chancellor when he was trying to deal with the pandemic and eat out to help out the furlough scheme, keeping lots

you are actually quite divided on this , mark francois. divided on this, mark francois. what do these guys think they are, the mafia? well actually, i do think it is that is where that whole kind of sentiment of being the five families. i think that descriptive term does somewhat hark back come from the mafia. just feel mafia. i mean, i just feel a little bit sad actually , because little bit sad actually, because i feel a lot of people that were not politically engaged and they did buy into this kind of momentous wave of boris johnson. you know, a lot of people , they you know, a lot of people, they did vote brexit because they wanted control of immigration action. and they will feel deeply frustrated by what many would argue just kind of the politics, internal politics, frustrating the will of the people. >> and the point is you've now got this is the third bill we've got this is the third bill we've got to acts that have been introduced by this government. the national nationality and borders illegal borders act, the illegal migration, an act that hasn't stopped . the

you heard earlier from mark francois, the erg . they mark francois, the erg.f getting these flights taking off from uk airports in may next yean from uk airports in may next year, as mr sunak told us just last thursday in that press conference earlier , i caught up conference earlier, i caught up outside parliament with mark francois, the chairman of the european research group of tory mps, the main group which commissioned these lawyers to review the bill and found it not workable . let's hear what you workable. let's hear what you have to say to me. >> the star chamber of legal experts, chaired by sir bill cash, spent nearly a week scrubbing this bill. forgive me. and they concluded this in summary, the bill over all provides a partial and incomplete solution to the problem of legal challenges in the uk courts being used as stratagem to delay or defeat the removal of illegal migrants to rwanda for a partial and incomplete solution. so the bill, as drafted , is not really bill, as drafted, is not really fit for purpose . so the fit for purpose. so the consens

those are irreconcilable differences —— mark francois. _ easier. do you think the prime minister has expended - easier. do you think the prime minister has expended too - easier. do you think the prime l minister has expended too much political capital on this today? i think he's got through what seemed to be an extremely challenging moment. i think what really reminded me back of the brexit debate was, is very difficult if you are a number ten and a webbing operation giving one set of messages to one group to get them to vote for you and at a different set of messages to different set of messages to different mps to get them to vote for you. different mps to get them to vote foryou. in different mps to get them to vote for you. in the end you have to find a real route through. what i don't see tonight is what that real route through is going to be for rishi sunak and the government. i think behind this is a public that doesn't just see a divided conservative party, sees the conservative party that comes across as fragmented. these myriad

talk us through some of the legal concerns there, and starting with what mark francois was just talkingat statement saying his group couldn't support this bill. then we heard from another representative of a slightly different group but on that same wing of the party, saying the bill would be defective because too many legal challenges could be opened up. what does that mean? that legal challenges could be opened up. what does that mean?— what does that mean? that means, effectively. — what does that mean? that means, effectively. that _ what does that mean? that means, effectively, that individuals - what does that mean? that means, effectively, that individuals can - effectively, that individuals can appeal to the courts, however the government can simply ultimately ignore the advice and judgment of any european court and press ahead anyway. the delay that would happen during that appeal still might be there and the government has narrowed on specifics and where someone can appeal in very few circumstances, extreme circumstances, extreme circumstances, so it's not perhaps as widesprea

basically, who's running britain tonight is rishi sunak, prime minister or is mark francois who thinksime minister? literally have minister? the literally we have the being the prime minister being held hostage by, as you say, this mafia like one side on one side, and then he's got the left of the tory party on the other side and extremely isolated and he looks extremely isolated in the middle. and when you've got to the stage where people are asking who runs the country? who's really charge, who's really in charge, you've had right. had it absolutely right. >> what the labour >> so what what would the labour party would keir party be doing? what would keir starmer french bent? starmer and his french bent? i mean, from laughing mean, apart from laughing into their or coffee or something their tea or coffee or something stronger, something stronger later certainly think later on, certainly i think after votes, what would they after the votes, what would they be look, i think what labour >> so look, i think what labour is thinking that if they do is thinking is that if they do lose it it

i'm joined now by mark francois, the conservative mp for rayleigh wickford. rayleigh and wickford. the don apparently the don corleone, apparently of the conservative party, because you're head mark of the you're at the head mark of the erg, the european research group, and that's one of the five families as we hear of caucuses on the right. i mean, is this all a bit ridiculous to be talking about five families and you're some sort of godfather and don corleone figure? >> i think it's probably a bit overblown. i am my mother was my late mother. anna was italian, so . okay, i'm half italian. are so. okay, i'm half italian. are you ? my middle name is gino. is you? my middle name is gino. is it now? yes. god. >> knock us up a pasta pesto. >> knock us up a pasta pesto. >> well, look so there's some italian heritage there, but i think some of your colleagues in the have been been the media have been have been getting bit excitable getting a little bit excitable about but look, this about this, but look, the this problem is a problem across the western world. it's

you heard mark francois in that statement about an hour, 45 minutes ago, which he then made very clearment doesn't move to harden up this legislation , the harden up this legislation, the right will vote against this bill at the third reading. so we are facing a difficult christmas, a christmas for the pm where he's got to bring round work out how he can make this more palatable to right of more palatable to the right of the stop the boats once the party to stop the boats once and all avoid losing the and for all and avoid losing the one the nation caucus, the 100 or so tory mps on the left who have they would support the have said they would support the this far they are this bill. so far they are warning him, don't it, warning him, don't make it, don't go any further in ignoring human rights laws. we can't support that . the pm done support that. the pm has done it. he's got past the first hurdle. it's been bruising . what hurdle. it's been bruising. what happens next now is absolutely vital for him. polly chris, just for our viewers who are tuning in to hear this culmination, if you

our correspondent trying to get a last couple of questions in with mark francois.this bill into the house of commons, expecting the backing, hoping for the backing of all factions of his party, the conservative party, from the left and right side. that grouping of more right—wing conservatives saying they cannot and they will not support their prime minister on this bill. he hinted the bulk would abstain, so don�*t exactly know what that will do to the numbers, we don�*t know exactly what that would mean for the vote, but as mark francois pointed out, not long to wait, just a few minutes. let�*s cross to our deputy political editor vicki young. not what rishi sunak would have wanted to hear. his. vicki young. not what rishi sunak would have wanted to hear. ha. i would have wanted to hear. no, i su ose would have wanted to hear. no, i soppose if— would have wanted to hear. no, i soppose if he _ would have wanted to hear. no, i soppose if he is _ would have wanted to hear. no, i suppose if he is looking - would have wanted to hear. no, i suppose if he is looking for

gone is mark francois country. gone is mark francois leoni . welcome. mark frater leoni. welcome.one and himself off. then today we had more shocking revelations. the bibby stockholm owned barge where somebody suddenly reportedly took their own life yesterday . it's costing own life yesterday. it's costing us about £22 million. it houses just a handful of people. it's a floating white elephant. after that , we also floating white elephant. after that, we also learned that floating white elephant. after that , we also learned that since that, we also learned that since 2020, just nought point 4% of channel migrants have been returned to their own country. even care for calais would have to admit that more than 0.4% of people coming across the channel are not genuine asylum seekers . are not genuine asylum seekers. bringing up the hat trick of utter tosh. a couple of hours ago, the tory centrists have reportedly said that they want to table some amendments of their own to soften the rwanda bill even more. i mean, good grief . now i know bill even more. i mean, good grief. now i know

gone is mark francois country. gone is mark francois leoni . welcome. mark frater leoni. welcome.imself off. then today we had more shocking revelations. the bibby stockholm owned barge where somebody suddenly reportedly took their own life yesterday . it's costing own life yesterday. it's costing us about £22 million. it houses just a handful of people. it's a floating white elephant. after that , we also floating white elephant. after that, we also learned that floating white elephant. after that , we also learned that since that, we also learned that since 2020, just nought point 4% of channel migrants have been returned to their own country. even care for calais would have to admit that more than 0.4% of people coming across the channel are not genuine asylum seekers . are not genuine asylum seekers. bringing up the hat trick of utter tosh. a couple of hours ago, the tory centrists have reportedly said that they want to table some amendments of their own to soften the rwanda bill even more. i mean, good grief . now i know bill even more. i mean, good grief. now i know tobias b

we are going to take you to a press conference by a group of conservatives called the erg and mark francois havejust finished chairing thank you, i am chairman of the erg. i have just finished chairing this meeting of these five conservative backbench groups, the european research group, the conservative group, the new conservatives group, the northern research group, and the common—sense group. david jones is my deputy chairman at the erg, he is also one of the four members of star chamber. again, to reiterate, the bottom line conclusion of the chart —— mega star chamber�*s report, this is taken from the report, and that reports is now available for anyone in this country to read by the lawyers have written website. the summary was, i quote, "the bill provides a partial and incomplete solution to the problem of legal challenges in the uk courts being used as a stratagem delay or defeat the removal or illegal

mark francois, rewrite. it. mark francois, chairman of the tory led european research group, says the rwanda bill only provides partial and incomplete solutions. a total overhaul may be the only way, he says , to be the only way, he says, to stop the boats . stop the boats. >> we all want to stop the boats , but there have been two legislative attempts at this already. the nationalities and borders act that didn't quite work. the illegal immigration, an act that didn't quite work. so this is kind of three strikes and you're out, isn't it? so what is really important it is if we're going to put a bill through parliament to have a piece of legislation, which is fit for purpose , as the bill is fit for purpose, as the bill is currently drafted and it isn't well, the illegal migration minister , michael tomlinson responded. >> he said he's confident that the plan does comply with the law and will work. >> look, this is the toughest piece of legislation that's ever been tabled before parliament. this is what we're de

this is a grouping of conservative mps thatjust happened a moment ago, so that was mark francois speakinghed earlier which is the group's position on the government's new reminder legislation. so, he went on to say that the grouping feels that they —— the rwanda bill is concerning and incomplete, a partial and incomplete solution to the legal challenges that the bill is likely to face in uk courts. now, he was also asked whether this meant that members of the erg group would vote against the legislation on tuesday, this vote is expected on tuesday parliament and he said, you cannot assume anything, on that point. he went on to say that there would be a further meeting this evening, 6pm. this will be a meeting between the erg, the european research group, and new conservatives, at 6pm. they will be looking into this issue again. this crucial vote for the government's flagship policy to stop illegal small boats crossing from france to the uk with illegal migrants. let's get more on another top story here on bbc news. about 200 elite afghan specialforces, trained and funded by the uk, face i

is mark francois colleague francois wrong? he's a colleague of yours ? on the right of yours.piece of of the party? well, no piece of legislation is perfect and we'll want to see it committed. >> whether it can be improved. >> whether it can be improved. >> but what we can't have is grandstanding on these issues. >> we have to get on and govern. >> we have to get on and govern. >> and as i say to two colleagues in politics, you know, follow your heart , but do know, follow your heart, but do take your brain with you . take your brain with you. >> so he's with you, i think rightly saying we can't have grandstanding on this . i'm grandstanding on this. i'm assuming reading between the lines he talking about lines there, he is talking about the grandstanding we the kind of grandstanding we saw from francois elianne from dom francois elianne earlier colleagues, i think >> well, colleagues, i think today have made the right call by not voting it down. so that, of a decision that of course, is a decision that people and i welcome people have taken and i welcome that. i think liam is

is mark francois colleague francois wrong? he's a colleague of yours ? on the right of yours.ece of of the party? well, no piece of legislation is perfect and we'll want to see it committed. >> whether it can be improved. >> whether it can be improved. >> but what we can't have is grandstanding on these issues. >> we have to get on and govern. >> we have to get on and govern. >> and as i say to two colleagues in politics, you know, follow your heart , but do know, follow your heart, but do take your brain with you . take your brain with you. >> so he's with you, i think rightly saying we can't have grandstanding on this . i'm grandstanding on this. i'm assuming reading between the lines he talking about lines there, he is talking about the grandstanding we the kind of grandstanding we saw from francois elianne from dom francois elianne earlier colleagues, i think >> well, colleagues, i think today have made the right call by not voting it down. so that, of a decision that of course, is a decision that people and i welcome people have taken and i welcome that. i think liam is e

no we've lost mark, francois. but mark, thank you so much for your thoughts there.t good enough . how on earth can we good enough. how on earth can we get to this situation, given that billions of pounds are being supposedly spent on upgrading the accommodation for our military, serving personnel? and once again , doesn't seem to and once again, doesn't seem to happen. it'sjust and once again, doesn't seem to happen. it's just not good enough? well, moving on, other breaking news today, other important news and i think sad news is that the bma have confirmed that there will be more strikes, more junior doctors strikes , this time in doctors strikes, this time in the run up to christmas. and in the run up to christmas. and in the first few days of the new yean the first few days of the new year, including, i think their longest ever doctors strike. well, i'm delighted to be joined by dr. arjun singh , who is part by dr. arjun singh, who is part of the junior doctors committee at the british medical association. thank you so much, doctor, for being with us. this is th

no we've lost mark, francois. but mark, thank you so much for your thoughts there.t good enough . how on earth can we good enough. how on earth can we get to this situation, given that billions of pounds are being supposedly spent on upgrading the accommodation for our military, serving personnel? and once again , doesn't seem to and once again, doesn't seem to happen. it'sjust and once again, doesn't seem to happen. it's just not good enough? well, moving on, other breaking news today, other important news and i think sad news is that the bma have confirmed that there will be more strikes, more junior doctors strikes , this time in doctors strikes, this time in the run up to christmas. and in the run up to christmas. and in the first few days of the new yean the first few days of the new year, including, i think their longest ever doctors strike. well, i'm delighted to be joined by dr. arjun singh , who is part by dr. arjun singh, who is part of the junior doctors committee at the british medical association. thank you so much, doctor, for being with us. this is th

gb news presenter camilla tominey asked mark francois if his opposition to the rwanda plan risked making perfect the enemy of the good. >> if the good doesn't work, then it's not good enough. it needsit then it's not good enough. it needs it needs to be good enough. now, on a positive note, sir bill cash is already talking to government lawyers about trying to come up with an amendment that actually , if you amendment that actually, if you like, would fill those holes . like, would fill those holes. that would be a very positive thing to if anybody can draft that amendment, it's bill. so he and others are talking to the government in a positive way about trying to draft something to make sure that the bill is fit for purpose and that amendment will be tabled in time for the committee stage, which is probably going to be in the second half of january. >> well, as we've been hearing, there is growing pressure on israel with david cameron joining germany's foreign affairs minister in calling for affairs minister in calling for a ceasefire in gaza . in a joint a ceasefire in gaza. in a joint

mark francois. he's me. now is mark francois. he's the research group the european research group chairman , mark francois, last chairman, mark francois, last night with the new conservatives , the common sense group, a big group of right wing tory mps. you announced a review of the treaty and you'll be reviewing the bill when it's published. why is that? >> yes, there was a meeting last night, several dozen night, as you say, several dozen tory the erg, the common tory mps, the erg, the common sense group, the new conservatives , and between us we conservatives, and between us we ask the star chamber as you immediate nicknamed it, under sir bill cash, a team of legal experts to go through the bill with a fine tooth comb when it is published . and i'm sure they is published. and i'm sure they will look at the treaty to with the objective of ascertaining whether or not the bill fully respects parliamentary sovereignty and whether it contains unamba ambiguous language that would allow flights to take off to rwanda. thatis flights t

i mean , i like mark francois as mean, i like mark francois as a person, the erg boss, but like the grandduke of york , you the grand old duke of york, you know, he's marched the troops up to the top of the hill and then he's marched them down again. >> exactly as you predicted. let's just remind ourselves what nigel said on on monday, on this show when he was in australia . show when he was in australia. >> will the backbenchers have the guts to vote it down? well, normally they march up to the top of the hill and they march back down again. most of them are a pretty spineless bunch . i are a pretty spineless bunch. i hope that i'm proved wrong. what is certain is that sunak is is for certain is that sunak is on course to lead the conservative party to their worst election result in modern times. and frankly , i think they times. and frankly, i think they deserve pretty much everything that's coming to them . that's coming to them. >> so there you are. but the prime minister the home secretary, they'll be feeling a bit more, a bit more confident, a bit more comfortable. well, confident ,

i mean , i like mark francois as mean, i like mark francois as a person, the erg boss, but like the grandduke of york , you the grand old duke of york, you know, he's marched the troops up to the top of the hill and then he's marched them down again. >> exactly as you predicted. let's just remind ourselves what nigel said on on monday, on this show when he was in australia . show when he was in australia. >> will the backbenchers have the guts to vote it down? well, normally they march up to the top of the hill and they march back down again. most of them are a pretty spineless bunch . i are a pretty spineless bunch. i hope that i'm proved wrong. what is certain is that sunak is is for certain is that sunak is on course to lead the conservative party to their worst election result in modern times. and frankly , i think they times. and frankly, i think they deserve pretty much everything that's coming to them . that's coming to them. >> so there you are. but the prime minister the home secretary, they'll be feeling a bit more, a bit more confident, a bit more comfortable. well, confident ,

speaking to camilla tominey mark francois said that opposition to rwanda's plan risked making perfect the enemy of good. but he insisted that the bill must be workable and that the amendment would bolster its effectiveness if the good doesn't work, then it's not good enough. >> it needs it needs to be good enough . now, on a positive note , enough. now, on a positive note, sir, bill cash is already talking to government lawyers about trying to come up with an amendment that actually , if you amendment that actually, if you like, would fill those holes . like, would fill those holes. that would be a very positive thing. so if anybody can draft that amendment, it's bill. yes. so he and others are talking to the government in a positive way about trying to draft something to make sure that the bill is fit for purpose and that amendment will be tabled in time for the committee stage, which is probably going to be in the second half of january . second half of january. >> labour has accused the government of sending the nhs into the colder months naked, amid warnings of a winter crisis . t

. >> we've got in that in >> well, we've got in that in the with mark francois, the panel with mark francoiscourse, sarah vine from the mail. vine from the daily mail. >> ask you first all, >> let's ask you first of all, would like use nigel would you like to use nigel farage one of your farage as one of your colleagues? well, look, nigel is a rock star british politics. colleagues? well, look, nigel is a rclike tar british politics. colleagues? well, look, nigel is a rclike it' british politics. colleagues? well, look, nigel is a rclike it or british politics. colleagues? well, look, nigel is a rclike it or not.ish politics. colleagues? well, look, nigel is a rcand it or not.ish politics. colleagues? well, look, nigel is a rcand i: or not.ish politics. colleagues? well, look, nigel is a rcand i wrotet.ish politics. colleagues? well, look, nigel is a rcand i wrote in sh politics. colleagues? well, look, nigel is a rcand i wrote in sh plittle;. colleagues? well, look, nigel is a rcand i wrote in sh plittle book >> and i wrote in my little book spartan victory about brexit, that if he'd never

and we've still got mark francois with us. ask you, mark, if you have a view on gary lineker sticking his nose in the rwanda it's rwanda policy again, saying it's wrong, dropped. wrong, it should be dropped. we were was were here earlier when he was likening immigration likening the immigration policy of to nazi of this government to nazi germany 30s. i think that germany in the 30s. i think that i think that last remark from gary is deeply offensive . gary is deeply offensive. >> my father was a d—day veteran , and find remark deeply , and i find that remark deeply offensive . as we discussed this offensive. as we discussed this before. andrew, i think the problem with the bbc is it may say on tim davies business card that he's the director general of the organisation, but he's not in charge. he's doesn't run within his own organisation . within his own organisation. he's got a kind of middle management that are out of control. so you know, they pay lip service to objectivity and then they say, well the heck they like. so so i

i know, it and mark francois know, but it and mark francois is kind the leader. is kind of the leaderas there the first. he's there on the steps first. he's there on the steps first. he's the corleone. and he said, the vito corleone. and he said, in that can't support in fact, that he can't support the of its many the bill because of its many omissions. basically omissions. so he's basically done i cannot do. done what he said. i cannot do. it's basically what done. it's basically what he's done. and was there and then miriam cates was there and dignity to look and she had the dignity to look slightly embarrassed about the whole very concise. whole thing and be very concise. but there the but they're all there on the steps it's steps and people are saying it's a little bit absurd and it is a bit a palaver over this vote. bit of a palaver over this vote. what's interesting is could it take probably not. take down sooner? probably not. now the but maybe take down sooner? probably not. now long the but maybe take down sooner? probably not. now long term. but maybe take down sooner? proba

i know, it and mark francois know, but it and mark francois is kind the leader. is kind of the leaderas there the first. he's there on the steps first. he's there on the steps first. he's the corleone. and he said, the vito corleone. and he said, in that can't support in fact, that he can't support the of its many the bill because of its many omissions. basically omissions. so he's basically done i cannot do. done what he said. i cannot do. it's basically what done. it's basically what he's done. and was there and then miriam cates was there and dignity to look and she had the dignity to look slightly embarrassed about the whole very concise. whole thing and be very concise. but there the but they're all there on the steps it's steps and people are saying it's a little bit absurd and it is a bit a palaver over this vote. bit of a palaver over this vote. what's interesting is could it take probably not. take down sooner? probably not. now the but maybe take down sooner? probably not. now long the but maybe take down sooner? probably not. now long term. but maybe take down sooner? proba

. >> and don't forget, in there, who abstained, mark francois of the european research group, one ofartans on the brexit the european research group, one of th said artans on the brexit the european research group, one of th said they'rein the brexit the european research group, one of th said they're not1e brexit the european research group, one of th said they're not goingtit bill, said they're not going to back and i know you can back down and ed, i know you can hear us number 10, because before move on, just before we move on, let us just show you little picture here. >> this was taken by our very own olivia utley. that is number 10. and on the screen there, thatis 10. and on the screen there, that is gb news. so good morning to you all. nice to know you're listening . listening. >> and because they know in number 10, they're going to get punchier more lively. interesting they punchier more lively. inte if sting they punchier more lively. inteif they're they punchier more lively. inteif they're listening they punchier more lively. inteif they're listening to they punchier more li

. >> now, it comes after european research group mark research group chairman mark francois .s that his name? yeah francois. is that his name? yeah francis. good. i know. when we get to french words, i always feel isabel knows best on this macron. anyway, francois . he macron. anyway, francois. he rejected the rwanda plan yesterday. he says basically he's one of these people that says, look, this does not go far enough. >> so the bill, as drafted, is not really fit for purpose. so the consensus of a meeting of five different backbench groups that i've just finished chairing was that the government, rather than plough on regardless, would be better to pull the bill and to come back with a better draft that doesn't have all these holes in it and while more moderate tory mps have announced they will support the vote today for the legislation, they have warned against any attempts to harden the measures . harden the measures. >> so with the house of commons voting on bill, this is voting on this bill, this is going at 7:00 going to happen at 7:00 this evening. much trouble . eveni

so be sceptical about what mark francois of the european research group says when he says they're alltively. well, ijust observed tonight's vote and i mean, i don't know how many people were at their meeting, so i can't comment on the numbers. but what i can do is count the people who voted and that, as i say, that looks like there were 24 of them. so not as many as one might have been expecting. well, i think that's right. i think through the day, people were talking about 50, 60, 70 or something like that. but yeah, people's views change through the process of legislation going through the house. so i'm sure the government won't be in any way complacent or won't think this is a done deal. but i think and i would appeal to my colleagues on the right of the party that it is clearly in the interests of the party as a whole that we show some unity in the early months of next year. how harmful would it be to the government if no flights take off before the next general election? well, it's clearly it's an important commitment and we want to see it. i think actually what people want to se

. >> so joining us now is conservative mp and former armed forces minister mark francois. hank you very much for your time. i've seen your comments in the telegraph this morning. you sound very , very morning. you sound very, very frustrated. was this unexpected that leo varadkar would make this legal challenge ? this legal challenge? >> yes . i feel this legal challenge? >> yes. i feel very this legal challenge? >> yes . i feel very strongly >> yes. i feel very strongly about this. >> can i explain ? i am one of a >> can i explain? i am one of a small band of conservative backbenchers, people like ids and johnny mercer , when he was a and johnny mercer, when he was a backbencher , campaigned for backbencher, campaigned for several years even to get this legislation brought in in the end, we managed to persuade bofis end, we managed to persuade boris johnson when he was prime minister, to do it. >> that led to what became the northern ireland legacy bill that was debated extensively in parliament. it took nearly a year to actually get through both the commons and the lords ,

says an amendment could be on the way as soon as january gb news presenter camilla tominey asked mark francoishis opposition to the rwanda plan risked making the rwanda plan risked making the perfect enemy of the good. he insisted that the bill must be workable and that an amendment would bolster its effectiveness as well. >> if the good doesn't work, then it's not good enough. it needsit then it's not good enough. it needs it needs to be good enough. now, on a positive note, sir bill cash is already talking to government lawyers about trying to come up with an amendment that actually, if you like, would fill those holes. that would be a very positive thing too. if anybody can draft that amendment, it's bill. yes. so he and others are talking to the government in a positive way about trying to draft something to make sure that the bill is fit for purpose and that amendment will be tabled in time for the committee stage, which is probably going to be in the second half of january . second half of january. >> well, a teenager who disappeared six years ago has been reunited with his family here i

we heard from my friend mark francois earlier today, the francois earlier on today, the chairman erg,hairman of the erg, speaking about of the review about the release of the review from the star chamber. >> we all want to stop the boats . there have been two legislative attempts at this already. the nationalities and borders act that didn't quite work. the illegal immigration act that didn't quite work. so this is kind of three strikes and you're out, isn't it? so what is really important is if we're going to put a bill through parliament to have a piece of legislation which is fit for purpose , as the bill is fit for purpose, as the bill is currently drafted, it isn't . i currently drafted, it isn't. i i'm joined now by my panel, former brexit party mep annunziata rees—mogg and historian and broadcaster tessa dunlop. >> tessa, what do you think of this? do you think the government should just be a bit bolder here and say clearly that we're leaving the european convention rights convention on human rights >> absolutely staggering. the amount of air time and of our money of legal trai

mark francois, chairman of the tory led european research group, says the rwanda bill provides a partial and in complete solution and therefore a total overhaul may be the only way to stop the boats. but illegal migration minister michael tomlinson says he's confident the plan can plies with the law and will work . with the law and will work. >> look, this is the toughest piece of legislation that's ever been tabled before parliament. this is what we're determined to debate tomorrow. this is what we will debate tomorrow and we'll come to amendments in due course. i'm convinced course. but i'm convinced because and i'm because we've seen it and i'm convinced of the convinced because of the government's position that government's legal position that we've published this afternoon, that the toughest that this is the toughest piece of legislation that does of legislation, that this does meet the concerns of the supreme court. and going to have court. and we're going to have that debate tomorrow that robust debate tomorrow afternoon that robust debate tomorrow aftewell,| other news today, >>

it's like, uh, mark francois, tonnothing.et half point? mohammed is the most popular boys name of 2023? cundy ? it's 2023? uh, lizzie cundy? it's true, true. what do you true, it's true. what do you think? it's you think? yeah. it's true. you should false in case it should say false just in case it is true . mohammed is the most is true. mohammed is the most popular boys name 2023. popular baby boys name in 2023. wow right. question three cop 28. just wrapped up in the uae. but what country is hosting the next cop summit in 2024? is it a australia b, azerbaijan or c brazil? uh matthew laza b azerbaijan c brazil ? uh, the azerbaijan c brazil? uh, the answer is azerbaijan. well done . answer is azerbaijan. well done. >> we're level. we're level one one. >> all right . question for >> all right. question for a british boy. that went missing since 2017 on a spanish holiday was found. in which country was the a france b, denmark or c ireland? uh you press one. i'm going to go to lizzie. >> it's france, it's france. thatis >> it's france, it's f

. >> i'm asking how much worse could it get under a labour government last night, don mark francois eliannees let the country down over rwanda so tory mps sirjohn hayes will so tory mps sir john hayes will front up on how that shambles was allowed to happen. he will join me live. don't miss that . join me live. don't miss that. plus, harry and meghan are officially announced as the biggest losers in hollywood. gary might actually be gary lineker might actually be in trouble with the bbc for once and you'll never guess what happens next. in this shocking clip. here we go. yes. are you going to have to tune in to find out? find out shortly. and tonight, i'm joined by christine hamilton, adam brooks and matthew laws, a top team tonight. this is patrick christys. tonight and it's all . action loads to

mark francois, chairman of the tory led european research group, says the rwanda bill provides a partialbe the only way to stop the boats. but illegal migration minister michael tomlinson says he's confident the plan can plies with the law and will work . with the law and will work. >> look, this is the toughest piece of legislation that's ever been tabled before parliament. this is what we're determined to debate tomorrow. this is what we will debate tomorrow and we'll come to amendments in due course. i'm convinced course. but i'm convinced because and i'm because we've seen it and i'm convinced of the convinced because of the government's position that government's legal position that we've published this afternoon, that the toughest that this is the toughest piece of legislation that does of legislation, that this does meet the concerns of the supreme court. and going to have court. and we're going to have that debate tomorrow that robust debate tomorrow afternoon that robust debate tomorrow aftewell,| other news today, >> well, in other news today, the minister busy the prime minist

all to come with mark francois next?ers as sponsors of whether on gb news . whether on gb news. >> hello again alex burkill here with your latest gb views news. weather update. we have some hefty showers around today. they bnng hefty showers around today. they bring the risk of some hail and some for few of us, some thunder for a few of us, but winds in but also strong winds in association a feature that association with a feature that has named pierre by has been named storm pierre by the met institute because the danish met institute because it will be in denmark, where we see the strongest winds. but nonetheless has been a windy start the many of us, start to the day for many of us, and the will continue, and the winds will continue, albeit easing a little as we albeit easing a little bit as we go the afternoon and go through the afternoon and into evening. we then into the evening. we have then plenty of showers feeding in on those northwesterly plenty of showers feeding in on those like northwesterly plenty of showe

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. >> i'm asking how much worse could it get under a labour government last night, don mark francois eliannehayes will so tory mps sir john hayes will front up on how that shambles was allowed to happen. he will join me live. don't miss that . join me live. don't miss that. plus, harry and meghan are officially announced as the biggest losers in hollywood. gary might actually be gary lineker might actually be in trouble with the bbc for once and you'll never guess what happens next. in this shocking clip. here we go. yes. are you going to have to tune in to find out? find out shortly. and tonight, i'm joined by christine hamilton, adam brooks and matthew laws, a top team tonight. this is

who's mark francois on tory mp. who's right. pulse right. he's. he's got the pulse of mps.. we've given a lot of peanuts. yes actually has built up to yes and actually has built up to a two days of hotel a rather large two days of hotel bills . bills. >> yeah. who and who who >> yeah. and who and who who thought sunak. keir thought rishi sunak. sorry. keir starmer his inner starmer is channelling his inner mrs. thatcher. oh. we're talking to. is that. >> is that what do we think? >> it's an own goal to be honest. >> big goal. yeah, well, we're very piers pottinger is with us this morning. not only has he worked a former chairman worked for a former chairman of the to work for the bbc, he used to work for mrs. thatcher, be quite mrs. thatcher, so he'll be quite interesting keir starmer. i'm interesting on keir starmer. i'm the thatcher. no, he isn't. the new thatcher. no, he isn't. >> no. well, you've already you've got one iron lady with you've got one iron lady with you this morning. >> i'm all in favour of iron ladies. >> didn't expect starmer to be. >> didn't expect star

well then tory mp mark francois came out and exposed the fact that there is very much a civil war.he bill as drafted is not really fit for purpose . purpose. >> so the consensus of a meeting of five different backbench groups that i've just finished chairing was that the government rather than plough on regardless , would be better to pull the bill and to come back with a better draft that doesn't have all these holes in it. >> meanwhile, rishi sunak was locked in the covid inquiry, which is arguably the only thing that's even more of a waste of time and money than the rwanda plan. answering questions about eat out. all the eat out to help out. all the while , members of his party were while, members of his party were plotting boot him out. now, plotting to boot him out. now, at 6 pm, the right wing of the tory party to be tory party gathered to be addressed robertjenrick, tory party gathered to be addressed robert jenrick, the addressed by robert jenrick, the former minister who former immigration minister who resigned plan . resigned over the rwanda plan. then p.m, resigned over

well then tory mp mark francois came out and exposed the fact that there is very much a civil war.he bill as drafted is not really fit for purpose . purpose. >> so the consensus of a meeting of five different backbench groups that i've just finished chairing was that the government rather than plough on regardless , would be better to pull the bill and to come back with a better draft that doesn't have all these holes in it. >> meanwhile, rishi sunak was locked in the covid inquiry, which is arguably the only thing that's even more of a waste of time and money than the rwanda plan. answering questions about eat out. all the eat out to help out. all the while , members of his party were while, members of his party were plotting boot him out. now, plotting to boot him out. now, at 6 pm, the right wing of the tory party to be tory party gathered to be addressed robertjenrick, tory party gathered to be addressed robert jenrick, the addressed by robert jenrick, the former minister who former immigration minister who resigned plan . resigned over the rwanda plan. then p.m, resigned over

world war i , a secret agreement was drawn up by an english politician named sir mark sykes and a french diplomat named francois jour picot. sacks enrollment agreement. it practically paved the way for the establishment of a jewish state in palestine . in 1977, british prime minister lloyd george promised to establish a homeland for jews. this commitment was written in the form of a letter from british foreign secretary arthur balfour to walter rothschild. a month after bey captured jerusalem. he also entered the city along with the jewish detachment that was created under the british brigade. one of the members of this group were david ben gurion, who later became the first prime minister of israel. at this time , world war i ended in 1918 and the victorious powers prepared to divide the middle east according to the sykes-picot agreement. preparations were made for the 1919 paris peace conference. british prime minister lloyd george and foreign minister arthur balfour were the british representatives. a delegation from the zionist organization led by haim weizman also participated in this conference. the arab

the prime minister has given himself this absolute target to end the boats as the erg mark francois,terday. if he'd said, i want to cut boats by 30, it hit his target, he said. he said he's going to get it's an absolute position he's taken on. so his mps are taking an absolute position in their policy. they want to get rid of the echr and pull out of it. all eyes now are the it. all eyes now are when the so—called meet out so—called five families meet out of the tory, right. that's five different groupings of mps on the right. the five families, they'll be meeting this afternoon, how they decide to vote. pip and andrew will be absolutely crucial to whether the pm loses or wins. tonight's vote. it will all happen here on gb news. vote. it will all happen here on gb chris, i just wonder if >> chris, i just wonder if what's this terrible thing that's happened? we think on the bibby , the bibby stockholm the barge, the migrants barge whether that will be weaponized bad taste as it may be on either side of the argument. this is why we've got to get the planes to rwanda. you could argue or

about mafia and about about about the mafia and about the families and mark the five families and mark francoisprised hear. surprised to hear. >> we've got a tory mp >> well, we've got a tory mp with us, chris. >> thanks for that, tom hunt, mp for ipswich, is here. you for ipswich, is here. were you at the christmas party last night 10? i was night in number 10? i was briefly, yeah. you're never out of 10 because you of number 10 because i saw you going breakfast the other going in for breakfast the other day. you, what were day. yeah were you, what were you um so when i went you fed with? um so when i went on tuesday morning, will geddes bacon rolls, fruit salad. uh, you know, but, you know, >> uh, you know, but, you know, obviously quickly had i had obviously i quickly had i had a bacon roll before the meeting started and then crept onto why is why rishi sunak so is why is rishi sunak so chipper? well, i mean, he was, you spoke to him last you know, i spoke to him last night, uh, started off night, um, uh, we started off actually talking our actually by talking about our respective football c