with jeffrey toobin and mark geragos and in columbia, south carolina, mark clackston. the d.o.j. report, it's said, may have had the effect of not just changing things in the police force but depolicing, meaning cops won't want to be cops as much, may back off, may actually allow crime to play out rather than get involved. is that a concern? >> that is a concern i've heard expressed by many people. i think, however, that that concern is really quite ludicrous when you think about it. listen, the job of a professional police officer is to uphold the laws, apply them fairly and equally and have an understanding about constitution, state, local laws, et cetera. if you're expecting a professional police department and professional police service which is about public service, then change is inevitable. and the situation such as was happening in ferguson, it's quite mandatory. and i think the d.o.j. report clearly detailed the areas of concern and suggested some things that need to be changed down there. and i think a smart police department and smart law enforcement will accept it on