. >> joining us now defense attorneys mark geragos and randy zelin. was a businessman at the time all of this was going down. he did not elect president yet so he didn't want to lose business opportunities so even if he had decided to go ahead with this project he said there would have been nothing wrong with it. is he right? >> well, he's got a big surprise coming in, and i think he knows exactly what's coming. december 12th when michael goes back to court, there is buried in the sentencing memos a reference to the fact that the -- there's a cooperation in an ongoing unidentified attorney general investigation. that -- that reference is basically a firewall so that they realize or to send a message out to the president's lawyers you're not going to pardon your way out of this. this is -- you combine that with the american media revelations which will be shortly forthcoming, and there is going to be a firestorm like i don't think most people have seen in a long time when this gets released. i literally can't emphasize enough the fact that he can try t

. >>> defense attorney mark geragos had done what he could to poke holes in the prosecution's murder case against paul zumot, arguing the prosecution had no scientific proof or clear evidence zumot was anywhere near jennifer when she was strangled and when the house was set on fire. anyway, he asked, if paul attacked jennifer, wouldn't she have put up some kind of a fight? why were there no defensive marks or scratches on paul zumot's body? did the prosecution even have a case? paul zumot wasn't going to take any chances. in fact, he was determined to tell the jury his side of the story. so gerados assigned a female colleague to question paul. it must have been a strategy, whispered courtroom observers. the way to show the jury that paul could, in fact, interact well with a woman. but those observers were mistaken, said geragos. >> well, i generally -- i don't think direct examination is my strong suit and i was concentrating on cross-examination of the witness. so paul zumot looked the jurors in the eyes and told them, i did not kill jennifer schipsi, did not burn the house. then he