. >> it is what we are recommending but it is also what the special ambassador mark grossman who is trying to implement, it is what secretary clinton is pursuing in afghanistan, it is what that tokyo meeting was all about, so i think in the end of the day, while, you know, tempers certainly flared i suppose and there was some -- i think really at the staff level more than at the president level but i think there was some personal friction, i think his recommendations were followed and now we have both a regional strategy and a strategy of reconciliation that he pushed from the beginning in 2009. >> rose: do you agree with that? >> i think one of the things that has -- that we identified early on in our work and it was no news to the administration was they needed t to -- they needed to field a team in kabul that was going to be more integrity grade in terms of the political and the diplomatic, and that would be able to rebuild the relationship with karzai, which was one of the casualties of all of this process you described and we were very encouraged when general john alan and ryan crocke

. >> it is what we are recommending but it is also what the special ambassador mark grossman who is trying to implement, it is what secretary clinton is pursuing in afghanistan, it is what that tokyo meeting was all about, so i think in the end of the day, while, you know, tempers certainly flared i suppose and there was some -- i think really at the staff level more than at the president level but i think there was some personal friction, i think his recommendations were followed and now we have both a regional strategy and a strategy of reconciliation that he pushed from the beginning in 2009. >> rose: do you agree with that? >> i think one of the things that has -- that we identified early on in our work and it was no news to the administration was they needed t to -- they needed to field a team in kabul that was going to be more integrity grade in terms of the political and the diplomatic, and that would be able to rebuild the relationship with karzai, which was one of the casualties of all of this process you described and we were very encouraged when general john alan and ryan crocke

a part and some of the young turks who may be more aggressive, and these are all the problems mark grossman has to try to sort out. >> rose: because these are the kinds of things you hear and read about, some of the taliban may be prepared to negotiate, even an american presence continuing, i mean clearly they will not accept karzai's part of any kind of coalition and that is not something they want to see. >> i think one of the other things we emphasize is that this isn't just -- this is not a negotiation between the united states and the taliban, it has got to be afghan led and afghan inclusive, including the other elements in afghan society who have not taken up arms against the government, have to be part of the discussion. it can't be just between karzai and the taliban, it certainly can't be between the united states and the taliban. >> rose: it has to be everybody? >> it has to bring in all elements of afghan society to try to find a way forward and a th forward there is a high peace council that now run by the son of the former president who was assassinated actually just after we v