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this was probably what mark hertling said, a failed rocket launch. i think it would be very important in that situation to keep putting out more and more evidence as it accumulates. more photographs. perhaps there are remnants of the missile one can find or photograph. i think that pushing back against what would appear to be a manufactured story, or really, people conveniently believing the part of the truth they want the believe is part of what the problem hear is. and the united states and israel should provide as much evidence as they can to break that narrative. will it work? i don't know. at left a it will show a good faith effort. it will show more evidence. the israelis have already done some of that. the united states has done some of that. but otherwise, i think it becomes one of these issues that, like. so of what we experience today, one side has its rather the and the other side has its truth. and i think particularly for us in the media, it is important just as you did with mark hertling, to try to arrive at some kind of more objective

joining me here at the wall is cnn military analyst and retired lieutenant general mark hertling.t's more than we understood, even just yesterday when we were speaking. this is just a broad picture of the region and where this all occurred. i'm going to highlight this right here. this is where the "uss carney" we believe intercepted these missiles. tell us what we should be looking out for. we've been talking about the risks of escalation. what are you seeing? >> the "carney" had just come out of the suez canal, they were in this area, and they intercepted quite a bit of both cruise missiles and drones. but this isn't all. the houthis in yemen have been looking to overthrow the government. they are anti-u.s., anti-israel, anti-saudi arabia. they launch these kind of missiles into saudi arabia. but these missiles appeared to be going to israel. you combine those with the popular mobilization fronts that we're seeing in iran, in northern iraq, in syria, in lebanon with hezbollah, in south egypt. israel, as we said last night, is surrounded. they've got a lot of enemies on all sides.

with me is retired general mark hertling, and we talk about what could be happening in terms of the groundion in gaza, but i wanted to ask you about how as you put together this slide, but what to expect from hamas. >> the new central team helped me to put this together, because we went through a couple of the after-action reviews from the 2014 operation protective edge. what struck me, john, everything that think tanks, scholars both in the u.s. and in israel said hamas was going to do, we have seen it so far. more rockets, and we know that, but expanding the tunnel complex, and we have seen it, and we have seen it in some of the maps that we have talked about, and expanding the land, air, and sea approach with the squads doing assaults on the cities with the great intelligence that you have all been reporting about is new tactics and technology that we have not seen a terror group do that at that level of sophistication yet at least in my career. and to get allies, and i misspoke this morning when i said pmc, but it is professional military groups coming from other countries like iran an

with us to discuss mark hertling.eneral hertling, thank you for being with us, a spokesperson for the kremlin says that russia doesn't target civilians, but a grocery store where there was a memorial for a fallen soldier, that doesn't strike me as a military target. >> it's not a military target, boris, and this town of hroza is a relatively small town, small population far away from the front line struck by what appears to be a missile. now, that kind of missile delivers over 1,000 pound warhead. 1,000 pounds of dynamite. it has close to a 300-mile range. it has guidance, then it's gps guided to a target. when you take all of those things into consideration, knowing hroza is a small town without probably any air defense from the ukrainian forces around it, this is an indicator of russia targeting and an indicator of a war crime since this missile did go against civilian infrastructure that had no military value. in effect, boris, this is called premeditated murder. >> wow. given that, general hertling, do you think i

. >> joining us now to talk about this, retired lieutenant general mark hertling, a cnn military analyst. that's the president there calling on congress to get busy and pass that funding to continue to support the people in ukraine's -- continue to support that fight against the russians. of course, as you know, was snipped out of that stopgap spending measure to keep the government up and running. i guess your thoughts on this, j general huertling, what happens if congress doesn't get it done and this funding drys up? what message does that send? what does that do to the ukrainians? >> there's a couple of things. first of all, there's a very small minority in congress who are sabotaging the united states foreign policy. and they are influencing in a negative way a fight for democracy and sovereignty and protection of an entire culture and its people by withholding this aid. we have been the leaders in this effort, with our western allies, 50 of them, the last time that they met at the rahmstein conference, and for the united states to go through the things that president biden talked ab

mark hertling, appreciate it, sir.hank you. >>> much more on president biden's high-stake trips to israel, yes, but also one of our own cnn journalists caught in the escalating crisis in gaza with his family. their desperate journey south from gaza city is all detailed on camera. you'll see that next right h ♪ >>> hospitals in gaza received 110 bodies from different areas of southern gaza. that just happened overnight. and right now, the humanitarian corridor is still not safe. over 44 hospitals in gaza have been hit and the world health organization says 84,000 pregnant women there require aid right now. this as the water crisis is also escalating. civilians are suffering from dehydration and water-born illnesses. and cnn has been sharing with you the stories of palestinians trying to escape as israel's assault on hamas escalates. >>> but now one of the people being forced from home is one of our very own, ibrahim, cnn journalist born and raised in gaza. he wants to continue telling his stories of people there. he's g

army and general mark hertling. thank you so much for being here. we keep hearing officials talk about the next phase of this war. it seems safe to assume that this ground invasion is coming. the question really is when but also what does that look like? what do you think is happening behind the scenes? >> there are a lot of considerations, kaitlan. what i would say from our perspective, hostages are most important and then civilians on the battlefield. but then you have to look at things like the readiness of the israeli defense forces and the capabilities of hamas fighting in the city. you also have to consider how much intelligence has the idf collected over the last six days since the attack that they hadn't collected before about the internal workings and the city of -- well, all the cities in gaza. also, implicating everything is the weather. so, all of these things are all part of, when do we attack, how do we attack, what are the objectives, where are different forces going, how do we synchronize those attacks, and how do we make sure that t

here to talk about this, mark hertling. thank you for being here tonight. in addition to what we just laid out, we're also learning tonight israel is striking what they say are hezbollah terrorist targets. what is your concerned about where this could be heading, big picture? >> it would rapidly expand, kaitlan. that's what concerns me. there's a lot of things going on. israel is looking in multiple direction. they focused on gaza, but now they're having to deal with terrorists inside of southern lebanon, which is a normal problem for them. that happens a lot. they've been fighting in southern lebanon for several decades actually. i mean, one of the big things that they do is just watch that area because they do have settlements there. the other thing is the west bank. palestinians are, you know, rising up in that area, and they also have to look to syria. all of this is being -- well, let's just say iran is contributing to this. but the u.s. forces going into the area, two carrier battle groups, strike groups, that's a lot of ships. it's more than just wha

let's bring in cnn military analyst and retired general mark hertling.eneral, saying that the u.s. is trying to delay the imminent invasion. and the israeli minister is denying that. do you think a ground incursion into gaza by the israeli military is the right move, is the correct strategy? >> well, jake, you have to take a look, i think, at all of the strategies of the various actors in this particular circumstance. you have israel which has publicly state third strategy is to destroy hamas and return hostages. you have hamas which has a stated strategy of destroying the state of israel and killing as many jews as possible. then you have the u.s. strategy which is to deter major actors in area from escalating into a wider conflict and support its allies israel. and at the same time, get hostages. but we're also seeing the potential for an unbelievably large humanitarian disaster in the gaza strip. so, all of those are competing demands. and it's difficult to achieve all of them. but the conversation about the u.s. persuading israel to not launch a grou

maggie haberman, general cohen, thank you mark hertling, as well. the race for the house speaker, congressman jim jordan, lobbying moderates, the former president said he can do the job to. later, ukraine and a memorial service faced a russian attack. a report from the scene from one of the deadliest attacks. >> last night, the former president was near the capitol, was on the ellipse at the january six, rather ng's followers to march on. tonight, he tells fox that he would return if asked a return as how speaker. he's expected to be there on tuesday to speak with house republican. speaking today with cnn's christiane amanpour, his 2016 opponent hillary clinton weighed in on the former president. >> it's a classic tale of an authoritarian populace who really has a grip on the emotional, psychological needs and desires of a portion of the population. and that base of the republican party, for whatever combination of reasons, and it is emotional and psychological, cease and someone who speaks for them. and they are determined that they will continue t

with us now cnn military analyst retired general mark hertling. this is the location of the hospital in gaza right now just so people get a sense of what it looked like before. this is the overall campus. as i said, the idf released what they call evidence that this was caused by islamic jihad, what the u.s. calls a terror group operating inside gaza. one of the pieces of evidence that they provided was this radar trajectory of rockets they say launched from gaza. explain what we're seeing here. >> what we're seeing is the lines of several rockets coming from a launcher. this is called a point of origin in military speak. they normally go to a point of impact. this is what the iron dome uses to intercept rockets. they see where they're going and then they intercept them if they're going into a populated area. but what happens, john, a lot of time with some of these rockets, because they are not real technologically advanced, they will just fall out of the sky. what i mean by that is the engine will stop. as soon as they do that a rocket has the tr

joining us on this is general and cnn military analyst mark hertling. it is good to see you. first let me start with the hostages that have been taken by hamas. how do the idf forces get to them because as we've learned from the armed wing of hamas, they say that the idf should be careful here, be careful of miscalculation because what happened to gaza, as they have said in a statement, happens to these hostages. >> well, victor, certainly they've been taken as human shields and they're already multiple reports of hostages being taken from israel back into the gaza strip. that is going to make any military operations difficult. what i suggest is, as your military analysts, what i true i to do is put my head in the mind of the commander on the scene. when you're talking about annize raely commander, right now, anywhere within the state of israel, who are heading toward the gaza for a potential ground operation, they're measuring all sorts of information. they don't have intelligence on the most likely positions where the hamas headquarters are or where the hostages are, they d

part of the intel, and i should say that lieutenant general mark hertling is with us right now, part of the intel released by the idf was an audio recording that they say was between hamas operatives. we can't independently verify the authenticity of this, but they say this was the conversation immediately after this alleged rocket hit right there. we will play this and show you the transcript full right now. let's listen. [ speaking in global language ] >> and that's a portion of what idf has released of what they say is an intercepted, obviously, communication between two hamas operatives. general, what do you read from that? what do you take from that? what does it mean? >> it is another indicator, kate and john. it is what is called signals intelligence. when you are in combat you have listening posts and you have capability to read the enemy's mail, if you will. so in this case, what we are hearing is a signal's intelligence allegedly. it could be manipulated, and there could be fake, artificial intelligence, but it appears that this is really a hamas operative looking at where

army europe and seventh army, lieutenant general mark he hertling. good to see you this morning.et's start with the ground forces inside gaza right now. we understand they entered overnight from the north and the forces are in the field right now fighting according to an idf spokesperson. it was first described as two targeted raids, general. is this the beginning or part of israel's major ground invasion that they've been promising? >> well, good morning, amara. first of all, i would like to comment on what both jim and nic said because they're being hesitant. yes, there's an increase in operational tempo of the israeli ground forces. this does not mean that this is the ground assault, the ground incursion. i would agree that there's potential for different kinds of actions. what i see in the films and the folks i've talked to who are involved in this, they're saying not yet. this is the initial, limited incursion to gain more intelligence. we're seeing a lot of tanks and infinity carriers and bulldozers, but that's not all we're seeing. for those of us experienced with this, th

army in europe, mark hertling. general hertling, just your thoughts on what we just heard from that global spokesman from the idf. >> it's fast moving, dana, that's for sure. there's a lot of activity going on throughout the day. israel has ramped up their air attacks and their combat air patrols over the gaza. it appears to me that they are assimilating their ground forces, getting their reservists potentially linked up with vehicles, and what we've heard so far about the potential for a second front in lebanon or against the hezbollah fighters that may be coming across the borders. that's going to be very challenging. this is not going to get any lighter. this is going to continue to grow in terms of catastrophes and casualties and deaths. we can see that based on the films that you're showing, what we know will occur because israel is planning an operation inside of the gaza. but they are having to deal with a lot of things, not only the complex situation in the gaza strip, the continuing taking of hostages, dea

. >>> with us retired general mark hertling. jeremy is in ashkelon talking about the rockets fired from gaza going there. there's a reason. >> there is a reason. this is an expansion of the map that hamas can hit different targets from gaza here. they have low yield weapons that don't go far, about 17 to 20 kilometers, that's under ashkelon. about the last decade they got better rockets that can go up to ashdod where some of the reporters have been. but they have long range rockets that can go 70 kmts kilometers or more hitting tel aviv, jerusalem, bethlehem. you're talking about this range here. >> the range has increased but the bulk of the weaponry within that zone. >> still here. >> i want to talk about what we could see on the ground and it perhaps explains what we're seeing in chuck schkhan youris . the idf released this map in 2014. this is a neigorf gaza city. all of these marks on this neighborhood are what? >> depends on the legend. but this is gaza city. this is northern gaza. you can see how many hamas activities wer

let's talk about this now with retired lieutenant general mark hertling, he is a cnn military analyst and former commander general for the u.s. army europe and seventh army. when we talk about this potentially expanding with he see how it has already expanded, general. you can see of course lebanon, there's shelling on either side of the border there, the west bank 58 palestinians killed there. syria saying two main international airports are nonoperational after israeli air strikes and of course -- and boris was talking about this -- the u.s. sending its second carrier strike group into the region, and then you have gaza which of course we are watching so closely at this point in time. how big could this get? >> it could certainly get much bigger, brianna. there are a lot of things going around, the israeli defense forces are looking in multiple directions while they're attempting to focus primarily on gaza but they can't do this. they have had these kinds of enemies in the north and in the east part of -- eastern part of their countries. this is going to continue. and i think what w

. >>> now i want to bring in mark hertling on all of this. the former commander for european and the seventh army. just heard jim sciutto in northern israel where he saw ex change of artillery fire over the border with lebanon. rou worried are you that this could turn into a broader regional war? >> i'm very concerned about it. and i suggest it is not a matter of if hezbollah attacks from the north and it is when. and they're attempting to time their attacks. you've seen artillery duels over the israeli forces in the north and the hezbollah forces. and now you're starting to see as jim reported, some hezbollah fighters coming into the area. something that they've done in the past. so, now you're seeing them stretch while their conducting operations in gaza, hezbollah and the other elements of the terror groups want israel to look in multiple directions an that is what is happening and you're seeing that increasing as the time goes on. >> so prime minister netanyahu said the war has entered a any phase. the targeted ground raids, but still not

general mark hertling, thank you so much. >> i was thinking of the conversation you were having withertling. mike mccall has said about the effort needed to the get the hostages out. the way he described it to reporters is we have special forces good at this, hostage rescue teams but it's going to be difficult going house to house like fallujah in 2005 when they used them as human shields. putting a fine point on what you are talking about. >> it's the population density here is so much more than that type of situation. you're talking about an area that is much more built up certainly more than fallujah ever was. >> his perspective was great on that. >>> as we know what started as a terror attack has sparked a now growing humanitarian crisis on both sides of the border. in israel and gaza. a warning as we talk through this, these images are disturbing. right now we know air strikes continue from israel into gaza, large scale strikes. israel trying to target hamas but we have seen innocent palestinians are getting caught in the middle. this is after one israeli air strike in gaza. we

mark hertling is here to walk us through all of it. when you talk about the scale of what the u.s. into place assets-wise, what does to tell you about the u.s. posture? >> it is a lot. it is to prevent other nations and potentially terrorist groups from entering into this conflict. it's not going to contribute to the fight in gaza, but it will try to contain the area so there are no other actors coming in to influence what israel is trying to do. >> wondering if you think this is significant. one of the idf spokespeople we have had on, colonel richard hecht said, we are preparing for the next stages of war. we haven't said what they will be. everything is talking about president ground offensive. it might be something different s that significant? >> very significant because i think what they are concerned about right now, poppy, is intelligence. what kind of intel do they have on the area of operation, that 25-mile by three-mile stretch of ground, we call the gaza. it's like going out in the mid of manhattan with lots of buildings and millions of people. to operate in that area, e

joining us now, mark hertling. good to see you. i want to start with the flares. nic robertson was pointing this out, we showed video of it right now. he made clear that's not the norm necessarily in this moment. what does that tell you? >> it tells me the israeli forces are looking for something or they're trying to use a little bit of psychological warfare against the people inside of gaza. this is not that big of a deal. it is just to show potentially the commanders that are on the scene where different crossing points are, what they're looking for, to orient those who are new to the area. >> big question is will this become a regional conflict? the president talked about that last night. let's talk about what we have just seen in the region, the fact that two sources told cnn overnight that navy warships, u.s. navy warships operating in the middle east had to counter multiple projectiles, fired on the coast of yemen yesterday. and then you couple that with what the pentagon says are drone attack attempts in iraq and where u.s. officials are in iraq and syria.

joining me now, cnn military analyst mark hertling. general hertling, great to see you as always.hat do you think is happening right now? we've been talking about an imminent incursion for a couple of weeks now. your sense of things as to why this might be taking a little bit longer than a lot of us thought? >> well, i've never talked about an imminent incursion, jim. truthfully i knew it was going to take a long time. we're talking about, number one, israel mobilizing 300,000 soldiers. the last time they went into gaza, they only mobilized 70,000, which was a huge amount. but also they have not been focused on gaza. so they're gathering intel on an area that they haven't watched closely for years. they're planning an extremely large operation in an urban environment that has high-rise buildings, tunnels, narrow streeted that are rubbled, where there are millions of civilians on the battlefield caught between the warring party. plus, add to that, hundreds of hostages. if you have that kind of a scenario, a situation, you've got to plan for a long time. you've got to take what you

i want to go now to retired lieutenant general mark hertling. and also joining me now is a former s.e.a.l. team 6 squadron leader who has gone all over the world doing hostage rescues. so much to talk to both of you. general hertling, u.s. officials have stressed that there are no plans to put american boots on the ground to fight in this war. so then why would the marines go in to strike groups, all of this every day more and more? how big do you think this war may get? >> reporter: well, erin, you have to understand that the makeup of a strike group, first of all, a marine rapid response force is about 2,000 soldiers, and that's exactly what is part of the ford group. they were in oman conducting theater security cooperation exercises with governments in the area militaries in the area. so they were pulled off of that exercise, put back on their ship, the baton, and sent as part of the strike group into that area. it's a prudent move. it's to get forces in the area to handle any contingency that might arise. and those contingencies fall along

shot -- a night vision shot from reuters several hours ago, what appears, according to general mark hertling, who was with us, appeared to be from tank fire being fired parallel to the ground. what do we know about ground operations? >> reporter: yeah, we've been able to hear some gunfire, some heavy machine gunfire and small machine gunfire. and it's very hard to tell precisely what's happening or why it's being fired. there was very extended bursts of gunfire and also limited bursts, which tends to indicate that there are ground forces at work. you might be getting the heavy machine gunfire coming from the top of these armored personnel carriers. some of them we've seen quite latterly the crew can batten down inside and the weapon on top of the vehicle, heavy machine gun, can be fired from within the vehicle. this can be the troops at the sharp end of the fight. but are they just laying down covering fire so that other troops can maneuver in, or are they actually engaging directly with hamas? it's very, very hard to tell. you're hearing several fighter jets over us now. this is a lot of fi

"outfront" now, retired lieutenant general mark hertling, former army commanding general for europe and the seventh army where he worked closely with the israeli army including dozens of instances of providing air defense support. so, general hertling, here we are tonight, obviously, attacks again, counterattacks in gaza. you hear the thuds, you feel the thuds through your body throughout the day. you've got the rockets then coming in from hamas. we understand right now 14 americans have been killed, 20 or more unaccounted for in israel, we understand from the biden administration. and president biden has confirmed that there are american hostages. so, general, in this situation, where you've got the israelis massing on that border, prepared for a ground invasion, can the u.s. sit back and just send aid? or will the united states do more and get more involved? >> i'd suggest, erin, what we're talking about with both the carrier strike group, the central command headquarters, as well as the air force that are in the area, that there's an awful lot of planning going on across the entire s

also joining us william cohen, cnn military analyst and retired general mark hertling and elie honig. maggie, what more have you learned from your reporting? >> we confirmed what abc reported, anderson, which is that trump had this conversation with mr. pratt, who is a member of mar-a-lago not long after leaving office. this was a conversation in which trump supposedly revealed a couple of pieces of sensitive information. now it's not clear exactly what trump said. we know that according to abc, it was specifics about capabilities and about distance that the submarines can go and how close they can get in certain cases. this is not -- it doesn't appear that he showed a document to this gentleman. but i don't know for prosecutors that that matters because our understanding is he is among the trial witnesses who prosecutors have listed as possible people they will call. and what they would likely use him for is to establish a pattern of trump being loose with sensitive information and the government's secrets. >> so he might actually be called? >> he is among dozens of people who might

i want to bring in cnn military analyst lieutenant-general mark hertling the magic wall. whl you see that in isolation, one of the things we have heard repeatedly from officials that are pointing to the idf say no rocket could make an explosion that big. what do you see there? >> first, well, start off by saying, phil, i heard the expression fog of war about a hundred times this morning. aim i am not a bomb analyst. neither are you. what you see is a very large fiery explosion. that's not usually something that comes with a gguided bomb m an aircraft. what it seems to be -- and this is just really conjecture on my part, is a rocket that still has fuel onboard. that's the indicator. the fuel propellent that pushes a rocket forward. when it hit the ground, the rocket exploded like they always do when they hit, but there was a lot of fuel in the rocket, too, because it had fallen out of the sky. so you see a very large blast, a fiery blast in a parking lot. >> to this point -- and this is one of the pieces of information that we have heard from idf officials in their view or

i want to turn now to cnn military analyst mark hertling. so that point, the density and proximity as it appears israel is about to launch one of the more significant urban warfare campaigns we've seen in a long time, intelligence has to be critical. how good is the idf's intelligence? >> they are gaining. only thing that you can say. they lost attention and focus that is obvious on gaza the last couple years. they have seen it as a political movement. they haven't paid as much attention to it. so whenever you take the eye off the ball even slightly, you lose some intelligence factor. when you have things like hostages and the potential to strike targets or even ground invasion or ground incursion, you have to have intelligence to drive your operation, to tell you where to go, what to target, what to see. and that is the problem that they have right now. they are trying to gain more intelligence back from what they missed the last couple months. >> really significant development overnight for people just joining us, israel now says 199 hosta

and to the point she made let's bring in lieutenant general mark hertling and kim dozier. talk about what they laid out and can it be definitive proof. >> it only goes so far and erin is learning new things out here. every commander has this chart and this is how the iron dome works. the radar initially gets where the point of origin of a rocket occurs and use that, first of all, to conduct strikes on that area. you want to kill the enemy but it also shows you the trajectory of the round because that's how the iron dome works. you pick up this trajectory somewhere along its route to knock down the rocket. in this case they've got several rockets coming out of this area on several trajectory, one of them goes right out of the hospital. or right over the hospital. this is pretty goodest in and of itself but not enough. you have to take a look at the craters that they provided >> that's what the israelis pointed to right away. >> exactly, the first one is the point of origin and aim. this is their crater analysis. it hit in this parking lot. the hospital right here and you sa

kayla tausche and ben wedeman in southern lebanon and senior military analyst retired general mark hertling and national security correspondent jim sciutto. kaitlan, let's start out with you. early on he was linking essentially vladimir putin and hamas, both supported by iran. both, he says, wanting to destroy a democratic neighbor. >> yeah, a neighboring democracy. that was the line that stuck out to me the most, beyond the lessons he believe should be imparted for israel, similar to what he believes the u.s. did after 9/11. of course he is someone who voted for the iraq war as a senator. he has later said he regretted that vote. and he seems to be clearly trying to send that message. he was clearly doing so when he was here, and tonight saying that hamas and vladimir putin are very different. obviously hamas is this terrorist group that the u.s. says operates out of gaza. putin is a world leader. but he was saying they both have the same goal, and he was using that link to say this is why we should continue funding not only israel and the iron dome that we've seen intercepting rockets tha

some the american military, who tried to make money from this, is what retired lieutenant general mark hertlingcongress military assistance for ukraine, how could this turn into a victory for putin? i would go even further, i would say that this has already become a victory for putin and those who think like him. the russians continue to use their mantra among some of our allies that the united states is unreliable and cannot be trusted. therefore, yes, this situation is beneficial to putin, but what is even more important. it shows the world that there are times when we cannot be relied upon. pavel sergeevich. what happened that somehow, somehow everyone began to turn away from a first-class country, well, they have their own problems, and the poles too in terms of the upcoming elections. and naturally, the americans are in a serious struggle, especially since we know that the supreme court did not prohibit donald trump from running for another term, and the republicans, we have all heard these statements too, will require an audit of a thorough report on every cent spent, accordingly, this sh

someone deeply familiar with how battlefield intelligence is gathered and use, general mark heartling. general hertling, i want to play some of what israel says is proof they did not cause the explosion at the gaza hospital. this is audio from operative allegedly discussing the rocket. let's listen. [ speaking in a non-english language ] >> how conclusive is something like that? and also coupled with the lack of a crater and also the rocket trajectories that they showed? >> anderson, i'd say that that audio that you just played is not the smoking gun. but it certainly contributes to it. there are all kinds of intelligence that contributes to an assessment of a kind of attack. you just mentioned a couple of them. there's the signals intelligence, the collection of audio. there's the measure of signals intelligence. that's the ability to tell differences in the surface of the ground and what happens. we've had tactical intelligence. the israelis provided tactical intelligence of our radar track of missiles being shot out of southeastern gaza -- southwestern gaza -- just to the west of the hospital. there